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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 2 November 2005 05:06 pm |
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sadljd wrote: My first meal is a sandwich any type.
Remember that you can have meals in a day in any order! i like to save my sandwiches.
Do you have to have the bran bread?
I found this hard to find. My wife found a partial oat and we use that with good success.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 2 November 2005 05:06 pm |
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| What brands do others use for bread and from where? Last edited on 2 November 2005 05:06 pm by Dobie
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kj204 New Member
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Posted: 2 November 2005 05:08 pm |
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| I used Pepperidge Farm Oatmeal bread. I stronger discourage anyone from using this one as that was the only day that I gain weight.
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sadljd New Member
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Posted: 2 November 2005 07:26 pm |
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| I personally am not a bread eater. The only bread I ever liked was a bun for hamburgers or whatever I put on it. Which is very rare. If I have regular bread it has to be in the form of toast, I dont care for the smell or taste. I am wondering if I could substitute bread with something else. This morning I ate plain toast , as I don't think butter is on this diet. I am looking forward to the chicken.
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letta Member
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Posted: 2 November 2005 07:46 pm |
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Braum's has Oat Bran bread.
I have been happier eating the carb meals at lunch and snacks. I don't care for breakfast anyway, so I get one of the protein only meals out of the way. Same thing at supper. I can then look forward to something tastier at lunch; seems to stick with me longer too. I am in my first 11 day phase. I have had a few rough moments but I just think "HOLD ON" then drink some water with a straw and it works! The hunger pains aren't always hunger but drought! That's probably why I am overweight! I am learning to know the difference with this diet.
My tips:Use a STRAW to get all that water down quickly. You can choose different meal plans until you get something that is workable; the next set of meals I have chosen more sandwiches. This will be easier for me to carry to work. I have chosen more tuna next time because you can mix in veggies with it & it's easy. Plain fish fillets were a true challenge for me... I'll pass on that choice from now on!
I have lost 7 lbs in 8 days. I know some lbs. will come back during the cheat period but that's ok. I lost 3 in the first 2 days then nothing for 6 days! So just "HOLD ON" all! Thank you all for your helpful tips. It has been a blessing.
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jewellover New Member
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Posted: 3 November 2005 03:29 am |
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Hi everyone - just wanted to mention that Arnold Country Classics makes an Oat Bran bread that is really good 
I like to toast it and put peanut butter on it instead of roast beef or another protein. I know peanut butter isn't on the diet but once in a while I like it :D
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 3 November 2005 07:15 pm |
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letta wrote: Braum's has Oat Bran bread.
I got excited, but the ingredients aren't any better than what I have found:
Enriched flour (contains: bleached flour, niacin, ferrous sulfate, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, malted barley flour, folic acid), water, oats, fructose, unbleached wheat flour, walnuts, wheat gluten, yeast, molasses, oat brand, partially hydrogenated vegetable shortening (soybean and/or cottonseed oils), wheat flakes, cracked wheat, wheat germ flour, salt, sodium stearoyl lactylate, contains 2% or less of each of the following: Potato flour, calcium propionate (a preservative), spice, ammonium sulfate, calcium sulfate, potassium bromate
Given the author's recommendation against wheat, I was shooting for wheat free.
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AWINGED1 New Member

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Posted: 3 November 2005 11:41 pm |
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| Hi Everyone, I have read most of the posts regarding this diet and it seems to agree with most of you. I am about to purchase it and I am glad I found a place to ask questions. Thanks
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letta Member
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Posted: 4 November 2005 12:05 am |
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Yes, you are right about the oat bread. You may try a health food store, maybe they have something with more oats that flour.
Even online, the recipes for oat bran bread call for flour. Since the bran is actually the husk of the oat, I suppose it wouldn't make a very good bread by itself. Yuk!
Pasta is also flour based so it sounds to me like flour is okay in a limited amounts. :yumm: Only two slices of bread on the sandwiches, etc..
Well, must go eat my flavored oatmeal for snack! It's actually very tasty mid- afternoon.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 5 November 2005 05:44 am |
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What are people doing on your days off? I feel like I am eating too much so I was curious.
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Tammie New Member
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Posted: 5 November 2005 06:54 am |
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Hi, I just found your message board and was glad I did because I have been on the Idiot Proof diet plan for about 6 weeks now and was ready to give up and was looking thru google to find a new diet and found this board.
During the 6 weeks I have been on this plan I have lost 15 lbs but the problem I am having is that I am so tired of the same food over and over and over. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the daily diet less hum drum?
I have never been so sick of chicken, tuna and turkey in my life and I don't like the banana shakes and smoothies at all and skip them all together. I wish they would change up the selections every so often but they never change the menu so you can have different choices. I thought about doing the diet plan without the menu generator but I am not good at that, I need the menu to tell me what to eat.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated because I have been so pleased with the weight I have lost and would like to lose another 10-15 lbs.
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suzlyn New Member
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Posted: 5 November 2005 06:53 pm |
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| Just checking in. I am at the end of 3 weeks (I am on day 6 of my second 11 day menu) and I am so far down 10.6lbs. So I am very pleased. Like the last poster said , it does get kinda boring on the same foods but there are days on the menu I look forward to (when I get fruits and mixed nuts)and I also like having 3 days off every 2 weeks to break things up. Hope everyone else is doing good.
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letta Member
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Posted: 7 November 2005 08:33 pm |
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Suzlyn,
I have occasionally substitued turkey bacon for ground turkey and still lost weight.
As far as the smoothies go, I usually just eat the fruit by itself and add the vanilla to the milk and some sweetner. I really like the "vanilla" milk.
I try to grill the meats outside. I have also used a tablespoon of raspberry chipolte sauce with chicken. I got tired of so much salsa.
Ground turkey chili is good too. Ground turkey meatballs. Hope this helps.
Keep trying the generator until you get something different.
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kj204 New Member
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Posted: 8 November 2005 12:32 am |
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| Hi I need some help with my upcoming fruit and veggie day. Does anyone have any ideas/recipes for this day. M
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lucebianca Member

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Posted: 8 November 2005 01:09 am |
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I don’t think 2 ½ months constitutes “Long Term” but it's a good start.....here ya go:
:)I started WL4I back in mid August. I lost a total of 20 pounds. To date I am still down 20 pounds and very happy about it. I took some time off posting and have been on and off the diet since then. I would start an 11-day period and then 5 days later something would come up (you name it) to throw me off schedule. Then I started again...then unexpected company. It's always something. There have been some seemingly permanent changes, though. I have kept the water intake up and have noticed that I make smarter choices now. I stop eating when I’m almost full. I eat some kind of breakfast every morning (which I never did before). I've noticed that if I don't exercise and drink plenty of water every day I feel lethargic. 
I have kept an eye on the scale…if I put on weight I would really watch what I ate the next few days. We had a birthday party recently with lots of sweets. I did not hold back and had a little bit of everything. The next 2 days I was just short of throwing up. I have always had a sweet tooth, but after eating healthy for a couple of months this ‘fall from grace’ taught me a valuable lesson. My schedule has gone from crazy to nuts....and whine , whine, whine.... I plan on starting back on a full 11-day plan soon (in spite of ‘holiday seasons’ ascending on us). There is still another 50+ pounds I want to shed. I’m not saying this diet is for everyone, but it certainly has worked for me.
Don't give up! 
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com

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Posted: 8 November 2005 04:47 am |
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There are so many times when my diets have lasted less than a DAY that 2 1/2 months would have sounded pretty good to me!
Keep up the progress!
Peter
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 8 November 2005 05:03 pm |
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I am struggling right now as well. Work and home are stressful and as I just came off of my 3 days "off", I realize that I leave on business (Out of country) on Friday so a four day cycle does not excite me.
So as Luce said, I am just eating smarter. I do eat less, more often and with better choices...much due to lack of bad food in the house. 
Anyway, my trip will be a challenge, but I will work out and do what I can. Hopefully I don't go on the traveler's diet and lose that way...I prefer this diet much more! ;)
Still at 27lbs down so no complaints. Best of luck, all.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 8 November 2005 05:12 pm |
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kj204 wrote: Hi I need some help with my upcoming fruit and veggie day. Does anyone have any ideas/recipes for this day. M
I like vegetable chili similar to dvo.com/recipes_archive/slow_cooked_vegetable_chili.html.
We also do potatoes with Molly McButter and broccolli or some other veggies. My wife takes green beans, a can of tomatoes and a can of potatoes with a bit of spices (salt, pepper and I don't know what else) and cook it on the stove top. This is surprisingly good!
I like a veggie stirfry (I start with onions and mushrooms for the juice and then mix in others with my favorate stirfry spices like ginger, garlic, soy sauce, etc.)
Fruit is fruit for me...no need to dress up, but if you mix them, do a variety such as with kiwi and strawberrys and some sweeter fruits like grapes or bananas.
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nevd Distinguished Member

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Posted: 8 November 2005 06:05 pm |
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I'm a lousy cook (not to mention impatient) so I tend to favour meals that require minimal input from me.
Any sort of beans (green lentils, broadbeans, black eyed beans, chickpeas) together with some cottage cheese and leafy salad would be a good evening meal for me, finished off with a whey protein drink if I'd worked out.
Could be heated or could be cold (the beans, that is). Cold if I'm lazy, heated if it's a chilly winter day outside.
For snacks, as others have written elsewhere, it's hard to beat veggie sticks dipped in cottage cheese or houmous (hummus) - the latter in moderation as it's pretty high in fat.
I also use my chocolate oat slice for a between-meals afternoon snack (see Vegetarian Recipes forum).
NevD 
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letta Member
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Posted: 8 November 2005 07:49 pm |
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If you are really tired of the diet generator or are traveling and food selections are more complicated, maybe the Rotation of Foods diet listed in the handbook on page 8 would work as a temporary solution. It is a slower system but at least you won't fall off the wagon completely. This diet looks like you would have more selection in your foods.
I fully expect to get tired of the diet at some point and do plan on using the rotation diet to help maintain until I "gain strength again"!
With winter coming, veggie soups are excellent and very filling meals. I made a chicken tortilla soup for my family last night. I used lots of shredded chicken, onions, a poblano pepper, rotel tomatoes, celery, mushrooms and spices. I scooped out the chicken, a few veggies and broth and viola! What a treat.
Another meal meal idea is stuffed bell peppers using ground turkey (with no crackers or bread filler though). How about chicken breast baked with a little spaghetti sauce and onions, peppers and mushrooms in a foil pack?
I am so glad to hear that the weight did not come back! Yeah! I have noticed that I don't crave the chocolate or sweets on my cheat days. I found it hard to actually cheat much! I didn't want that junk any more.
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suzlyn New Member
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Posted: 8 November 2005 09:02 pm |
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| Question about the Hot Dog on the menu. It says it can be any type with anything on it. It doesn't say you can use a bun but it doesn't say you can't either. And if you can have anything on it wouldn't that mean that a bun is allowed since it is hard to *top* a hot dog with out a bun to hold it in??
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com

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Posted: 8 November 2005 09:12 pm |
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When salad bars first became popular maybe in the '70s, not sure, I remember them being used as a great excuse to pig out... but say you only had a salad for lunch. One friend of mine would stack slices of cucumber around the edge of the plate to build up a wall to support her creation. All of course topped with heaps of fat-laden dressing.
It's a funny picture... a hot dog sitting on a plate with as much as you can get stacked on top of it! :D
Seriously, if you can have "anything on it" well, a bun is "anything"!
Peter
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VaLady New Member

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Posted: 8 November 2005 10:37 pm |
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Well, I will get the hang of this with a little practice. I guess I should have "replied" instead of starting a new topic, because I meant for my comments to be posted to this forum instead of starting my own. Sorry! I goofed and sent my comments as a new thread.
Today is my first day on the WL4I diet. My husband and I are following the Rules version and in my first post I introduced our situation and asked to hear from people who have followed the Rules version instead of the generated diet version. The generated diets seem like they might get boring as the foods were repeated over and over. The rules version appeals to me as being a little more creative.
If anyone is kind enough to find my comments on the new thread I started I would appreciate any feedback and answers to the questions I asked there. Am wondering how people handle their fourth meal.
I'm excited about this diet and think it makes perfect sense. My first goal is to lose 10 lbs and then I'll go from there. To think about losing 20 or 30 lbs just seems like too big a goal. I think I'll feel good about the first 10 lbs and then be motivated to continue.
Any encouragement for a beginner would be appreciated! Thanks.
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angie6700 New Member
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Posted: 9 November 2005 01:13 am |
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Hey guys! I signed up foe this friggan diet today and it better work! I have been on every diet in the world. Atkins ( I must say I lost the most on this one), south beach, weight watchers, ediets, body for life, low cal, low fat, ugh, everything. I eant to lose like 55 lbs and i am very optimistic about this diet. Does anyone have any tips for my day 1 tomorrow? Am i really going to be tired? Does anyone drink beer on this diet and it messed them up? Let me know guys,
***Ang****
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com

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Posted: 9 November 2005 02:42 am |
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Ang,
I suggest you spend some time thinking about why all those diets failed. Perhaps you can find something in common to help see that it doesn't happen again.
Best wishes,
Peter
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 9 November 2005 09:02 pm |
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Can someone tell me if potatoes are allowed? They seem so high carb, but a baked potato would make a delicious meal with Molly McButter and maybe some steamed veggies. Allowed, or not?
My take is it is an allowed vegetable.
If it's as simple as eating some fruit for the fourth meal, I think we can do it. How do other people handle this?
I work 5 days a week and eat at 8, 11, and then 3-5 somewhere (either at work or at home) and then at 7-8. It has worked fine for me.
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smallmama New Member
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Posted: 13 November 2005 03:44 am |
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I am curious what Fat Loss 4 Idiots dieters eat on their 3 days off the 11 day cycle, what exactly do you eat ?
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nevd Distinguished Member

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Posted: 13 November 2005 03:11 pm |
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I just checked the FL4I website to see if they really were the bunch I'd remembered.
I haven't checked this thread to see whether the majority of people have been successful but...
I see the FL4I selling point is 'lose 9 pounds every 11 days'. Which is just the kind of flim flam that most fad diet companies like to use as a lure. It's not a particularly 'safe' rate of loss (ie more than 1.5 to 2 pounds per week), and will become an increasingly difficult target if your weight does decrease (since the 9 pounds will represent an ever-larger percentage of your body weight).
I hope that it works for those of you trying it, but that sales pitch does worry me.
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letta Member
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Posted: 14 November 2005 10:39 pm |
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Re: I see the FL4I selling point is 'lose 9 pounds every 11 days'. Which is just the kind of flim flam that most fad diet companies like to use as a lure. It's not a particularly 'safe' rate of loss (ie more than 1.5 to 2 pounds per week), and will become an increasingly difficult target if your weight does decrease (since the 9 pounds will represent an ever-larger percentage of your body weight).
Well, I guess that's why they call us idiots....;) ha ha
By the way, it is working for me. Seven pounds instead of the nine on the first 11 days (perhaps because I have been tweeking abit). I let myself get caught without the exact foods and substitute sometimes. I'm on my second 11 day course, and will report my losses on Friday.
For some strange reason, my sweet tooth has subsided with this diet. I can now walk right past the desserts at work. My portions of food have grown smaller lately. I can't eat very much. I get full very fast.
I agree with Dobie about the beans, since they have protein in them they stay with me. I did not have any trouble on fruit and veggie day this time.
I really want to thank everyone who contributes, this has really helped me stay focused and has answered most of my questions.
Signed,
A big loser
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nevd Distinguished Member

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Posted: 14 November 2005 10:48 pm |
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7 pounds in 11 days...
That's 24500 calories more than you ate... Or over 2200 calories burned each day more than you ate. Either you ate almost nothing, or you exercised 5 hours a day!
Congratulations if you are happy with the result. But my question would have to be - 7 pounds of what?
It never harms to remind people that what is needed is fat loss, but we always talk in terms of weight loss. They aren't the same, unfortunately.
All the best to all of you trying this stuff. I wish you well.
NevD 
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letta Member
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Posted: 14 November 2005 10:50 pm |
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smallmama wrote: I am curious what Fat Loss 4 Idiots dieters eat on their 3 days off the 11 day cycle, what exactly do you eat ?
I ate some of the foods that I couldn't have during the diet. This is the time to do that.
Since a hamburger is my cheat food normally, this diet takes that pleasure away! I started this round with a burger and I will end on Thursday with a burger.
They warn us not to overeat though. I was surprised that I really didn't want the rich foods during the cheat days.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 15 November 2005 12:24 pm |
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nevd wrote: Congratulations if you are happy with the result. But my question would have to be - 7 pounds of what?
Don't know about your math so I will just shrug at that.
As to the 7 lbs...I lost 12 the first, 8, and about 5 each cycle since. I don't believe that the flim flam states that it is 9lbs every 11 days, but I could be wrong. Surely there is water weight loss the first time, but from there I take it you are implying that either muscle is being lost or fat, right?
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Posted: 15 November 2005 03:38 pm |
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هل جربتك هذه الحمية وهل نجحت حقآ؟
Did the diet really worked with you?
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Posted: 15 November 2005 03:46 pm |
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أريد أن أشكر إدارة المنتدى على هذا الموقع الرائع والمفيد...
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nevd Distinguished Member

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Posted: 15 November 2005 08:50 pm |
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Surely there is water weight loss the first time, but from there I take it you are implying that either muscle is being lost or fat, right?
Dobie -
Since we're made up of a lot of water, it's always possible to lose more (well, up to about 15% anyway, after which it's usually fatal).
But yes, when you experience regular weight loss, it's either body fat or lean body mass. It's pretty hard to lose bone density very quickly, but it's certainly easier to lose muscle than many people perceive.
On the other hand, it rather harder to put muscle back than people think, so it's doubly unwise to lose it!
The trouble with bathroom scales is that they don't tell you what it is you've lost.
Anyway, good luck once again in your endeavours.
NevD 
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Posted: 15 November 2005 09:15 pm |
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smallmama wrote: I am curious what Fat Loss 4 Idiots dieters eat on their 3 days off the 11 day cycle, what exactly do you eat ?
According to the plan: During this 3 day break you should eat whatever you want to, you may eat junk food if you want to. Never eat so much that you feel “full”. This cheat period is necessary to force more fat burning to happen during the next 11 days diet period.
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letta Member
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Posted: 15 November 2005 09:40 pm |
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Dobie wrote: nevd wrote: Congratulations if you are happy with the result. But my question would have to be - 7 pounds of what?
Don't know about your math so I will just shrug at that.
As to the 7 lbs...I lost 12 the first, 8, and about 5 each cycle since. I don't believe that the flim flam states that it is 9lbs every 11 days, but I could be wrong. Surely there is water weight loss the first time, but from there I take it you are implying that either muscle is being lost or fat, right?
Let's hope its fat! The walking burns fat and since we aren't taking in a lot of carbs or new fat to burn off then....
This diet is reviewed on several websites. Some didn't say much about it and some said it was a healthy diet...I was skeptical at first too. I looked at the website several times before trying it. I had been "counting points" again but gained 3 lbs! I think I was eating too much sugar and bread. There are breads that have only 1 point, so I must have overdone it.
We all have to find whatever works best for us. I don't think I can be trusted with a "eat anything you want" attitude.
Has anyone tested their fat count? Some scales will do this and some fitness places have fat counters.
Just curious....
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AWINGED1 New Member

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Posted: 16 November 2005 08:39 pm |
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I have been on Weight Loss for Idiots diet since Monday and I was down 5 pounds this morning. Wow!To be fair I did enjoy quite a few empty calories in sweets prior to the diet which I dont have now. I dont feel hungry at all and the my energy level is way up. Can we have potatoes on this diet? When we have hamburger can we have a bun as well or just the meat. I can hardly wait to see what day 11 will bring me for weight loss. If anyone has some chicken recipes, pass them on. Thanks
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evil New Member
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Posted: 17 November 2005 12:50 am |
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Hello All,
I was just wondering if the meals on FL4I can changed around or do they have to be eaten in the order given by the generator.
Thanks
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letta Member
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Posted: 17 November 2005 12:56 am |
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AWINGED1 wrote:
I have been on Weight Loss for Idiots diet since Monday and I was down 5 pounds this morning. Wow!To be fair I did enjoy quite a few empty calories in sweets prior to the diet which I dont have now. I dont feel hungry at all and the my energy level is way up. Can we have potatoes on this diet? When we have hamburger can we have a bun as well or just the meat. I can hardly wait to see what day 11 will bring me for weight loss. If anyone has some chicken recipes, pass them on. Thanks
Congrats...Yes, potatoes and beans seem to be okay. I eat beans and potatoes for my veggie meals. The beans have protein and help me not to get too hungry. Potatoes and soybeans are mentioned on the vegetarian diet generator. Yes, I have eaten the hamburger with bun and lost weight. If you choose egg salad, it does state that no bread is to be used so I feel the bun is meant to be included with the hamburger.
When you start to get hungry you are probably losing more weight. Whenever you think you might be hungry, just drink 8 oz of water rather quickly. If it's real hunger, it will come back very strong. I couldn't tell the difference in hunger and thirst. I never let myself get hungry, I guess! And that's why I need to lose weight now...Everytime my stomach would rumble, I thought I was hungry. I never made sense to me why I was always hungry. I wasn't drinking enough water. I am an idiot... I have reconditioned my thinking now. Everytime my stomach rumbles, I drink water and it always goes away.
The weight seems to fall off in chunks so don't get discouraged if you go several days without any loses.
Good luck. I hope some of this helps.
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AWINGED1 New Member

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Posted: 17 November 2005 03:52 pm |
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Thanks letta for the encouragement and the tips. Day 4 and I am down 7 pounds. At the moment I am enjoying my oatmeal...mmmmmm oatmeal never tasted so good.:)
I do drink around 10 cups a water a day. At first all I did was go to the bathroom but now I am back to normal. The only think I have to do is get walking which I have not done yet. Good Luck to you as well:D
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Posted: 17 November 2005 08:16 pm |
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Okay - I am in my first day but I have no doubts as I am extremely motiviated.
I do have a few questions on portions. On the "cottage cheese" meal - how much are poeple typically eating?
I can eat a full 16oz container and not feel stuffed. Is that okay?
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Posted: 18 November 2005 05:40 pm |
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I have never joined out of these website things before, but after reading some of the postings, I'd like to "give back." I just ended my first 11 days and did, in fact, unbelievably, lose 9 lbs. Granted, I'm assuming half of that is water and other superfluous weight, but it has gotten me in the weight loss mode.
Before I started this, I ate, I thought, pretty healthy. I haven't really changed the foods I ate, just the way I ea them. Also, although I exercised regularly, I was doing the wrong type (high intensity). Now, I walk faithfully and do a few arm exercises. I think one of the reasons this is working for me is that I'm "mixing it up." I think there is truth to the fact that your body adjusts to what you eat and what you do.
The first diet I "generated" had way too many eggs on it and sometimes the stuff I was supposed to eat didn't appeal to me at the time so I sometimes substituted protien for protien or carb for carb. I also adjusted the menu to fit real life. How many people really eat scrambled eggs and pasta? Instead, I had turkey meatballs and pasta (protien for protien). Also, when you read the handbook, if you are eating a "protien" meal, there's nothing that says the protien needs to be one thing. So, on a day that I was supposed to have a roast beef sandwich. I had a roast beef dinner, I subsituted a small helping of potatoes for the bread, and I had vegetables instead of "anything I want" on my sandwich. I think the trick to this diet is adapting it to real life and how the foods fit realistically in your life -- that way it makes it easier to stick to.
I'm looking forward to my next 11 days. I'm sure I won't lose the same amount of weight, but as long as it's heading in the right direction, I'll be happy!
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AWINGED1 New Member

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Posted: 18 November 2005 06:55 pm |
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| Hi Shamrock, I am new to the diet as well. I have started to change things around as well for the real world. Like you said protien for protein, carb for carb. Today I am having Sushi for lunch, fish instead of chicken, rice instead of pasta . You have given me some additional ideas, thanks. This is day 5 for me and I am down 8, like you said, mostly water and hopefully a pound or two under there as well. Good luck
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martbarr New Member
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Posted: 18 November 2005 07:37 pm |
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Hi,
Just lurking.
I've now spent a year trying atkins, and other lowish carb variations and am the same weight now as I was a year ago. (50 yr old male 196 pounds)
Any - ramble over - I think I will try FL4I - you all seem to have had much success.
2 questions:-
A) I have a suspician that I'm intolerant of dairy and wheat.
I guess I just leave those out of my diet options.
B) I already go to the gym 3-4 days a week and do 45 mins aerobics each time. Does FL4I require extra on top of this - I see a mention of 2x30 min walk or a 45 min walk each day.
What do think??
Cheers
Martin
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AWINGED1 New Member

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Posted: 18 November 2005 07:50 pm |
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| Hey Martbarr, not too much dairy and wheat on this diet, almost none. The two walks a day are all the exercise you will be doing. Aerobic exercise is not allowed on this diet it gets your heart rate too high. Hope this helps
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suzlyn New Member
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Posted: 20 November 2005 12:17 am |
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| Update, I am on day 6 of my 3rd 11days. Total wt loss has been 12.5 lbs. That averages out to just over 2 1/2 lbs a week so far which I don't consider to be too fast of wt loss. I never expected to lose 9lbs in 11 days anyway, nor did I want to. If I was dieting on my own I doubt I would even be losing 1 lb a week so I am very pleased with my success.
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nictwister New Member
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Posted: 22 November 2005 05:39 am |
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Suzlyn,
I would love to hear some of your tips for success. I am on my 4th day of my first 11 days. So far so good, but the non-ability to snack gets to me at night. Any tips?
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vikrant_bits New Member
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Posted: 22 November 2005 09:22 am |
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Hi All,
I am going to start this weight loss program from today... i am wondering what will be the rebound weight gain.. once I stop practising this 11 day plan... I guess it will be more than what I will lose in those 11 days... Because my body metabolism will start functionin as usual in that case... so no more cheatings... Please let me know.. asap
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vikrant_bits New Member
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Posted: 22 November 2005 09:27 am |
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| I would also like to know as to exactly which parts of the body witness visible weightloss.. Is it the hips and thighs or throughout the body...
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