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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 18 September 2008 03:05 pm |
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Thurs.
Breakfast-
cheerios
ground flax seed
ground walnuts
1 piece of whole wheat toast
1 tbls smart balance light spread with flax oil
Snack-
broccoli and carrots (just for one snack) green giant
1/4 cup walnuts
Will update more later... 
Snack- two plums
Lunch-
One turkey burger
two slice whole wheat bread
two slices of tomato
lettuce
ketchup and mustard
pudding pop
That puts me at 1027 cals. so far.
I didn't know mustard had cholesterol in it, and wow what a difference in your calorie count when you add up all the condiments.
Right now I am stuffed, but I think where I am at with my calories is low. So, still hopping to get in a fish fillet later today. That should about top me off. I don't know, I will look it up and see how many calories they are.
I also did the ski thing on the porch this morning for 30mins. I like it, it's easy, just not sure there is any benefit in it. I was going to look up information on that also. Seems to low of a cardio for me... I'm planning on hitting the treadmill tonight.
Well that's all for now.
Last edited on 18 September 2008 08:08 pm by cportwine
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trimB Moderator

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Posted: 18 September 2008 05:42 pm |
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Have you read the book Eat to Live? The author has some interesting ideas about how the body can "malfunction" when too much processed foods and foods from animal sources are part of your diet. I'm sorry - I'm not good at explaining the concepts... there's a whole forum section for the book!
Anyway, I like you idea of giving yourself 3 more months to try the drug-free route!
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 18 September 2008 06:23 pm |
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trimB wrote: Have you read the book Eat to Live? The author has some interesting ideas about how the body can "malfunction" when too much processed foods and foods from animal sources are part of your diet. I'm sorry - I'm not good at explaining the concepts... there's a whole forum section for the book!
Anyway, I like you idea of giving yourself 3 more months to try the drug-free route!
At one point I was going to buy that book, but never did. I know what to do. I just need to do it better, I guess.
Yea, I like three more months also, let's hope the doctor will agree with me.
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Hisgal Distinguished Member

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Posted: 18 September 2008 08:53 pm |
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Cindy,
Sorry to hear you didn't get good news with your test results. I know that diet and exercise don't work for everyone......but if you did it once, I can see why you'd want to try to take that route again.
If you can, I would endorse Suenos suggestion to read "Eat to Live". I used to have high cholesterol too.........and I went on the "Eat to Live" diet for about 7 weeks before I went in for my cholesterol test. At the beginning of my diary I wrote:
When I went for my blood work in Dec. my total cholesterol had gone down to 164 (from 230 at the last reading)_ and my "bad" cholesterol had gone down to 95 (from 166 at the last test).
My hubs has high cholesterol too, and did a half-hearted attempt to lower it. He succeeded somewhat, but after a couple of years, he put the weight back on, and his cholesterol went back up to 279........and his good cholesterol is really low. That's a bad combination. His Dr. wrote him a prescription, but he never filled it. Finally, he was ready to really learn about cholesterol and what foods to eat or not eat, to control it. He also started on a natural supplement, containing plant sterols, which is suppose to be successful at lowering cholesterol. He won't take time off work to get re-tested, but I am most curious to know what diet, exercise and the plant sterols has done.
I do hope your Dr. will agree to another 3 months to work on this. I got my Eat to Live book on amazon.com You can get used copies of books there, for pretty reasonable prices. I also ordered "The China Study", by T. Colin Campbell. It talks more of the science and studies to back up the Eat to Live way of eating. I will warn you, that if you follow the diet, it suggests no more than 12 oz. of animal products a WEEK! I thought that would be impossible, but it wasn't bad at all for me. I even got my hubs down close to that amount, and he's a real meat eater! Now we often have meals that have no meat...........and the latest magazine articles and morning news shows are talking that a healthy diet should treat meat/fish/etc. as a condiment, not a main part of your meal. It was worth it to me, to get my cholesterol down there without meds. I hope your appt. goes well for you. Pat
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 18 September 2008 09:19 pm |
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Hey, thanks for all the information. I will definitely be looking into purchasing that book.
I have started tracking my calories on my daily plate so I could see what my cholesterol intake is and fats, etc.
Some of the foods I am consuming, I didn't even know they had cholesterol in them. So, this is an eye opener for me.
Plus, I looked back through my journal and see several areas that I could improve on. So, maybe the doctor will let me get by one more time. If not, then I will just have to deal with it.
I just know that if I go on meds. Then I will slip up even more, cause I'll think it's ok to eat things like pizza. -I know stupid, but I know how I am....
Well, I'll let you all know tomorrow how it goes, if I have time before we leave. Going to see my folks. It's a five hour drive, so as soon as I get done at the docs. we have to head out.
Last edited on 18 September 2008 09:19 pm by cportwine
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 19 September 2008 01:12 pm |
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Ok, I still have a #%@&! #%@&! attitude today. I don't why I let my emotion over take my life. I was doing great, everything was wonderful, until I had that stupid cholesterol test done. Now, I am trying to eat everything I can think of to make it go down and in a result of that, my weight is not moving. I ate allot yesterday. Which is ok, cause I stayed in my calorie range and wed/thurs are usually big eating days for me. So, knowing all this, why am I ticked off at myself. Probably because of the test. I have my physical today (you know that yearly thing, yeah ), and I can't wait to get it over with. Then maybe my life can get back to normal. I am so sick of worrying about it.
Also, going to see my parents this weekend. I have mixed emotions about that also. My mother is in the early stages of Alzheimer's and I have a hard time dealing with that. I find myself avoiding her because of it, and that's not right. But, I can't help it. It's like she is a different person. She use to be my best friend and now, I don't even know her. Anyway, that is my problem, not hers, and I need to deal with it.
So, a weekend spent on the road and dealing with my mother. I am thinking if I can behave eating wise, it will be a miracle.
Well weigh in this morning wasn't good. 126lbs and I did walk four miles last night. So, off to another stupid day in my stupid life...
Last edited on 19 September 2008 01:13 pm by cportwine
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 19 September 2008 06:00 pm |
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                          Well, when it rains it pours. So, I have been going nuts, thinking about my appointment today. What is the matter with me, It's just a stupid doctors apt. What the #%@&! am I so worked up about. I am never this way, I just don't get it.
I already have pigged out today, had an ice cream cone and had not just one, but three red bean and rice tortilla things. My calorie count is already at 1000 something and today is a non workout day.
So, I don't know what to do. Should I just my appointment (but then I will continue to freak out about it). Or just go in and get it done (then maybe I can relax a bit).
God, I hate it when I act like a baby. I am just going to go and quit freaking out about it. Maybe after lunch, I will go for a little walk with the kids to clear my screwed up head.
                                  
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MidgeH Senior Member

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Posted: 19 September 2008 06:24 pm |
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 21 September 2008 01:53 pm |
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ok, Just a quick post here. I am at my parents house and I hate their computer, well not the computer, their roller ball, instead of a mouse. Makes it hard for me to use this thing.
Anyway, the doctor went better then expected, she told me to try fish oil, before we do anything else. So, I have till december. I didn't tell her that I already do allot of fish oil.
So, I am open for suggestions on what else to try. I do everything already that is recommended. So, I think I need to give up red meat completely and cheese, also, I need to boost up my fruit and veggie intake. I am making myself eat 1/4 cup of walnuts everyday. I think fish three times a week on top of the fish oil might help. I don't know, so if you know something, please share.
Friday, was not good, I did the ski machine for 30mins. That was it for exercise.
I ate horrible on friday, including arby on the way here.
Sat. wasn't to bad, I walked 4 miles in the morning here, then we were in the parade in my hometown. Got stuck at the fairgrounds after the parade without a ride. So, we hoofed it back to the van. Probably another mile. My foot is hurting now, since I didn't have on proper shoes at the time.
I didn't eat to bad- for dieting. But, cholesterol wise, not good.
So, hoping today to get back on track... I know we will have a big breakfast, so I need to practice some self control this morning. Then behave when I get home.
As far as the scale goes. Hasn't been good. Friday night after everything I ate it was only up one pound from the morning. 127lbs. This morning it was at 126lb. Not looking to hopeful on getting back to 121lbs before wed. But, stranger things have happened. So, who knows. Now that I got the doctor behind me and what not. Just maybe I can pull it off.
So, that is the weekend......
Will update and get catch up on the rest of the post when I get home later today...... 
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 22 September 2008 11:41 am |
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Ok, yesterday wasn't much better. But, starting today, I need to get back on track. I ate the big breakfast and then we stopped on the way home and ate. So, lots of calories yesterday. I was probably still within my calories range, but my fat was through the roof. I did make myself eat my walnuts last night.
Also, I did the stupid elliptical for about 20mins, then did 4miles on the treadmill. My foot has pretty recovered from the walk on sat. My legs were sore all day yesterday. So, I don't know if that was from walking in the morning on sat or in the afternoon with the stupid shoes, I had on.
Todays goals are to eat fish...... and get a bunch of stuff done since I was gone all weekend. Otherwise, I am not expecting much out of myself. I need to get some zzzzz. I didn't sleep well at moms house and then up late last night watching the packers.... So, going to try and hit the sack right after walking tonight. Or if I can get some walking in today, I may skip tonights walking.
Anyway, will update later...
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Nir Senior Administrator

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Posted: 22 September 2008 01:02 pm |
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cportwine wrote: trimB wrote: Have you read the book Eat to Live?
At one point I was going to buy that book, but never did. I know what to do. I just need to do it better, I guess.
Ok, I'll be honest, based on what you have written recently I really am not sure if you know what these types of books (and there is a family of books written by a variety of doctors which all agree on quite a few things) actually recommend.
You need to give up: 1) meat (yes including chicken) 2) fish (but fish oil capsules are ok) 3) dairy (even non-fat) 4) eggs (or at the very least, egg yokes) 5) fats such oil/margarin/butter 6) sugar/dextrose/HFCS etc (sugar in fruits is ok) 7) refined grains (white rice, white pasta, bread where first ingredient is not a whole grain like wholewheat)
Don't worry, there is still lots left to eat. (exercise also plays a part in cholesterol lowering and heart disease reversal but I gather you're keeping that up)
It makes me sad and frustrated that you want to be healthy and avoid the medications (which will lower your numbers but won't necessarily unclog you arteries) but are following generic advice like eating Walnuts instead of attacking the problem at the root cause i.e. saturated fat, dietry cholesterol, refined oils and refined carbohydrates. You could always do this strictly for a few months, prove to yourself that you can reverse disease, and then if you like you can go back to your current diet once the doctor isn't looking at your numbers (though obviously that wouldn't be my advice)
If you don't have the time to read a book, watch a video.
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 22 September 2008 02:28 pm |
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Ok, weigh in was 126lbs this morning. Not to bad considering I ate bad this weekend-heck, more like all week.
So, this morning I had 1 1/2 breakfast burrito (green peppers, mushrooms, onion, egg whites, spices-cook in extra virgin olive oil spray, whole wheat tortillas).
I know it don't seem like I know what I am doing. But, really I do, I just haven't been eating healthy, for quite some time. Sort of, but not really.
I really don't see any reason to give up fish or non fat dairy items. Also, an occasional meat (chicken), isn't terrible either. To be honest if I have to give up everything, (fish, non fat dairy, chicken) then I would rather go on the medicines. I am really not interested in being a vegetarian.
I had it down before by eating fish, and walnuts, and upping my fruits & veggies. Limiting my dairy and red meats. I also eat all whole grains. I was actually eating more red meats at that time. Which is why I was shocked at the cholesterol scores. I think I do more now, then I did before. But, apparently something is not right. So, back to square one.
I have to say also, that before I only ate fish and turkey for my meats (not chicken), and had red meat (90% hamburger) about twice a week. I didn't start my journal on here until after I had already gotten it down before. Which sucks, cause I can't use it for a reference on what I was eating at that time.
I really don't get it. It's not like I even eat a whole lot, let alone, terrible foods. Yea, on occasion I do, but not daily.
Ok, so maybe I don't know what I am doing after all. I will do more research and see what I can come up with. 
Thanks for the suggestions... and will update this again later... 
I have been reading and reading. So far, I have not learned anything that I didn't already know. So, just need to stick to my diet and there should be no problems getting this cholesterol reading down.
Lunch- two clementines, two plums, a little garden salad ( I used salsa for dressing and didn't care for it. Plus, the broccoli came out of the garden and was very bitter), 3oz of cod, with fat free tater sauce.
I am still hungry, so I figure I will eat something again in a few hours... I thought, since it's fish day, I would have tuna with some wheat saltines, or a bean burrito (that I make with re fried beans, taco sauce, whole wheat tortilla. So, there's two options for me. I need to get stocked back up on fruits and veggies, running thin right now. I can finish off some more of the plums I got, and I know I got three tomato's in the garden. So, that should do me until I get to the store later.
Snack- will be some cheerios and walnuts... 
Ok, I did have some tuna and crackers, but only a couple of them, It wasn't hitting the spot. So I did the cheerios and walnuts , that hit the spot. Then later I ate some more cheerios plain, and two more clementines- I could eat those things like candy.
I have manage to stay away from most of the animal products today, so I am happy with that.
I am having a real problem with my sweet tooth, so maybe tomorrow, if I have time I will make my healthy cookies or some sort of homemade granola bars. I trying real hard not to eat processed foods and stick to the basics.
ok, off to walk, I will do four miles and maybe I can talk myself into that elliptical again.
Last edited on 22 September 2008 11:53 pm by cportwine
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 23 September 2008 12:01 pm |
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Ok, I am so fricking tired today. I walked 4 miles yesterday and didn't do the ellipitical. I was kind of annoyed at myself for not doing more exercise yesterday.
I also, am feeling sorry for myself today, I just want to pig out. Started the strict diet yesterday and I feel empty. So, yesterday was fish day, and it didn't seem no matter how many veggies I ate, I was still hungry. So, today, I am going to eat some beans and get full. I was thinking some sort or burrito things or something.
I think I ate around 1200-1600 calories, which is alright, I just couldn't get full. I only ate 3oz of fish yesterday. So, maybe I should take in a little more in that department and no so many fruits and veggies. I know I would of been fine if I had some bread or something to eat it with. But, I was out of about everything yesterday. So, off to the store today, get stocked back up and get ready for a strict week.
Weigh in is tomorrow, not looking forward to that. I was at 121lbs before all my cholesterol #%@&!, now I am at 126lbs, so I not expecting much tomorrow morning. I hope it goes down some, but I won't be mad if it doesn't. I wasn't very good over the weekend, I haven't been good since I had my doctors apt. I guess my way of thinking, I have until december and I got to be good, so kind of like one last big herha. I wish I could be one of those people who eat good all the time. I just don't care to live like that, I like meat, and I want to eat it. So, you knows, I will probably eventually end up on meds. Because I can only be strict with myself for so long. I am so week.
Anyway, will update later... 
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Nir Senior Administrator

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Posted: 23 September 2008 12:58 pm |
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here's another one to read
http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/cholesterol-cholesterol-statins-and-choice.html
by the way you say you've done more reading; did any of it include the doctors who are (amongst other things) reversing heart disease such as Ornish, Esselstyn, McDoogall, Barnard, Fuhrman, Harris?
On a personal note I'd like to add that when I first read Eat To Live in 2006 I was not yet ready to reduce meat and fish, and even today when I have substantially cut it out I still have some meat/fish - but we're talking about a 1.5 oz serving once every few days - it is not the centre of any meal. So I do symphasize with your irrational addiction to meat. In my case it is an even more ridiculous affliction = I refuse to throw away something I paid money for.
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 23 September 2008 01:14 pm |
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Thanks for the link, Nir.
Yes, I did do all sorts of reading and mostly they all are trying to achieve the same thing, just in different ways.
I did like the fuhrman approach to more so than the others. He basically from what I read uses allot of fresh fruits and veggies and not so much of the other stuff. But, to be honest after yesterday, I not so sure that will work for me. I was going to look when I am out today to see if I can pick up a copy of one of his books. That way, I can understand it more.
I know his reasoning seems to be that after you get rid of all the procused stuff and #%@&! out of your diet, then your body knows what it needs and when. That all makes sence, but still doesn't make it any easier to do.
I don't know why I get so hysterical about the meat thing. There are times when I go for days without meat, and it's not the center of my meals. I guess allot of that is my attitude in general. You know "Don't tell me what I can and can't do" lol.
Anyway, I am looking forward to getting more information on his theories and tactics.
Thanks again, for the info.
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 23 September 2008 01:24 pm |
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Ok, I weighed in this morning at 124lbs. Glad to see my binge week, is going down now. I got out of control and now things are getting back to normal. Plus, I put on a shirt this morning, that I have not wore in six months or so, cause it was to tight. Well, it fits good. So, that put a smile on my face.... 
So, with that being said....Goals for today, get some new walking shoes, a jacket, groceries, and try to squeeze in some exercise. Which shouldn't be to hard, cause I got a bunch of work in the garden that needs to be done.
I have been thinking. That it would be great to get the elliptical up stairs to the porch, so I can work out on it when the kids play outside. The only things I have on the porch are the ski machine (to easy) and the cardio thing (which is worthless). I could do some Pilates and the ball. I don't know,,,,,,, will have to think on that some more. The thing is so big, not sure it would even fit out there. Would love to do an exercise bike, but I loaned mine out and I don't think the lady is going to ever give it back. So, maybe I can find another one somewhere.
Well, that's it for now..... Off to have breakfast.
Ok, I had two pieces of toast, fat free miracle whip, three tomotoe slices, three pieces of turkey bacon, and lettuce. 
one wafer cookie, a few peanuts, a banana
lunch- one slice of whole wheat bread, two fat free hebrew nationals, chilli beans, and fat free cheese.
I am stuffed and I have only had a little over 500 calories today. So, on fish days, I need to eat some sort of bread or something for filler.
Today, wasn't the greatest, but it's fish day again tomorrow. And I am trying to come up with some recipes that does not involve meat. Today, I was going to do the bean thing. But, I didn't want to throw out the dogs, and they needed to be used up.
Oh yea, while I was out, I picked up some decaf tea. So, I can try to cut back on the caffeine. I don't really need to be drinking that much in a day, so thought I would give it a go as soon as my regular tea runs out. I should start doing more of the green tea also. Just to many things to keep track off sometimes.
agghhh! forgot to look for that book, I wonder if the library has it...
Last edited on 23 September 2008 10:45 pm by cportwine
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zenobia Moderator
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Posted: 23 September 2008 09:09 pm |
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ever consider using veggie meat? Boca makes great hambergers. i really like thier sausage patties, too. their ground "beef" is great for spaghetti sauces and tacos.
i've never had their hot dogs, but i've heard that they are good. also, if you like mushrooms, you can make awesome protabella burgers (grill up some big caps- extrememly low cal, good taste, and a meaty texture). just some options if you really do want to get away from meat but don't want to give it up completely.
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 23 September 2008 10:32 pm |
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zenobia wrote: ever consider using veggie meat? Boca makes great hambergers. i really like thier sausage patties, too. their ground "beef" is great for spaghetti sauces and tacos.
i've never had their hot dogs, but i've heard that they are good. also, if you like mushrooms, you can make awesome protabella burgers (grill up some big caps- extrememly low cal, good taste, and a meaty texture). just some options if you really do want to get away from meat but don't want to give it up completely.
lol, funny you should say that, cause I seen some of that stuff today and wonder if any of it was good. I will definitely try the ground stuff for spaghetti and taco meat. I did get some morning star veggie cakes. I haven't tried them yet. But, they looked good.
I love mushrooms and will try the big one out.
Also, I love beans, so I picked up every kind of bean I could think of today. I can easily live on beans, lol.
I also, got some more rice, I not a big fan of it, but I like it with red beans and tomatoes.
Plus, I got some stir fry things to try out. So, we will see.... Just have to be creative, I guess.
I wanted to get some turkey brats, but they were out of them. Agghh! Those are actually one thing that my husband will eat with me. He thinks the regular ones are to greasy and upsets his stomach.
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Hisgal Distinguished Member

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Posted: 23 September 2008 11:42 pm |
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Nir, thanks for those links in cport's diary...........I enjoyed watching the video and reading the info in the other. Even while doing ADD/JUDDDD, I still eat mostly vegetarian............the meat usually comes on the weekend, with other events going on.
Cport...........I was a big carnivore, and so was my hubs! When I made a meal, he'd often fill his plate with meat, and skip the veggies. When he discovered that his cholesterol was up again, I started making mostly vegetarian meals. I did stir-fries quite a bit.......using non-stick spray, lots of veggies, and maybe 1-1.5 oz of chicken in a 2-4 serving batch, if any. That's not much, but sometimes I felt I should, being he was being so good about eating the other vegetarian meals. He liked the BBQ riblets made of TVP. But watch some of those meatless products, that substitute for meat.........some are still fairly high in fat. Same goes for those turkey brats..........look for the lean ones......read labels.
I also love the grilled portabellas..........I spray the grilled with Olive oil non-stick spray, and also a quick spray on the mushroom, then sprinkle with seasoned salt and grill on both sides.......then serve on a whole grain bun, with a bit of fat-free ranch drsg. Mmmmm!
Do you like chili? I posted a recipe for vegetarian crockpot chili on the CPH site, in the recipe section. It's very good..........I often make a double batch. If you like it spicier, use medium or hot salsa, instead of the mild. We eat it plain, or add the TVP (that looks like ground beef), or serve it over 100% whole wheat pasta. Sometimes I will add a small amount of extra lean ground turkey....usually when I bring it somewhere.
Nevd has a great recipe on this site, for homemade protein bars. I prefer Trimb's version made with tofu........and I've added natural peanut butter too. They freeze very nicely!
Today I had the yummiest cucumber sandwich..........it ended up being a lot of calories, because I got it at a subhouse. But I could make it at home, and cut the calories drastically. It was a whole wheat bun, with red pepper hummus and cream cheese mixture spread on the bottom.......then topped with lettuce, alfalfa sprouts, cucumber slices.....then sprinkled with sunflower seeds and craisins.
When I did the ETL plan, I seriously thought I could never cut meat out of my diet. But, I truly wanted to try to lower my cholesterol with diet and exercise, so I promised myself that I would give it a try. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. And now, even though I'm not strictly on ETL.......over the years, I find myself often making or choosing vegetarian selections. I'm not as perfect at eating my veggies every single day as Nir is..........but, I've learned to enjoy them to the point that they are the first thing I go for on my plate. I really love my breads and starchy carbs.........and sometimes I eat a fair amount of them, but at other times I cut them down to only a few times a week..........and they are almost always whole grain, unless I am at someone else's house. If you want to use rice, buy the brown rice or wild rice.
I truly hope you'll be able to this with diet and exercise! BTW, I read in another book, that fish oils are not nearly as good as flax seed oil. I switched the hubs over to that instead.
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CrimsonAnimus Moderator

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Posted: 24 September 2008 01:45 am |
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cportwine wrote: Ok, I weighed in this morning at 124lbs. Glad to see my binge week, is going down now. I got out of control and now things are getting back to normal. Plus, I put on a shirt this morning, that I have not wore in six months or so, cause it was to tight. Well, it fits good. So, that put a smile on my face.... 
Way to go, Cindy! 
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 24 September 2008 11:46 am |
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Hisgal wrote: Nir, thanks for those links in cport's diary...........I enjoyed watching the video and reading the info in the other. Even while doing ADD/JUDDDD, I still eat mostly vegetarian............the meat usually comes on the weekend, with other events going on.
Cport...........I was a big carnivore, and so was my hubs! When I made a meal, he'd often fill his plate with meat, and skip the veggies. When he discovered that his cholesterol was up again, I started making mostly vegetarian meals. I did stir-fries quite a bit.......using non-stick spray, lots of veggies, and maybe 1-1.5 oz of chicken in a 2-4 serving batch, if any. That's not much, but sometimes I felt I should, being he was being so good about eating the other vegetarian meals. He liked the BBQ riblets made of TVP. But watch some of those meatless products, that substitute for meat.........some are still fairly high in fat. Same goes for those turkey brats..........look for the lean ones......read labels.
I also love the grilled portabellas..........I spray the grilled with Olive oil non-stick spray, and also a quick spray on the mushroom, then sprinkle with seasoned salt and grill on both sides.......then serve on a whole grain bun, with a bit of fat-free ranch drsg. Mmmmm!
Do you like chili? I posted a recipe for vegetarian crockpot chili on the CPH site, in the recipe section. It's very good..........I often make a double batch. If you like it spicier, use medium or hot salsa, instead of the mild. We eat it plain, or add the TVP (that looks like ground beef), or serve it over 100% whole wheat pasta. Sometimes I will add a small amount of extra lean ground turkey....usually when I bring it somewhere.
Nevd has a great recipe on this site, for homemade protein bars. I prefer Trimb's version made with tofu........and I've added natural peanut butter too. They freeze very nicely!
Today I had the yummiest cucumber sandwich..........it ended up being a lot of calories, because I got it at a subhouse. But I could make it at home, and cut the calories drastically. It was a whole wheat bun, with red pepper hummus and cream cheese mixture spread on the bottom.......then topped with lettuce, alfalfa sprouts, cucumber slices.....then sprinkled with sunflower seeds and craisins.
When I did the ETL plan, I seriously thought I could never cut meat out of my diet. But, I truly wanted to try to lower my cholesterol with diet and exercise, so I promised myself that I would give it a try. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. And now, even though I'm not strictly on ETL.......over the years, I find myself often making or choosing vegetarian selections. I'm not as perfect at eating my veggies every single day as Nir is..........but, I've learned to enjoy them to the point that they are the first thing I go for on my plate. I really love my breads and starchy carbs.........and sometimes I eat a fair amount of them, but at other times I cut them down to only a few times a week..........and they are almost always whole grain, unless I am at someone else's house. If you want to use rice, buy the brown rice or wild rice.
I truly hope you'll be able to this with diet and exercise! BTW, I read in another book, that fish oils are not nearly as good as flax seed oil. I switched the hubs over to that instead.
I know I can do this. I use to-when I had the cholesterol down before, go days without meat. Or I would eat fish- which I love. No one else in my house will eat it, lol. I grew up fishing with dad and eating the days catch.
Yes, the turkey things and meat substitutes can be high in calories and fat. Some of the things I looked at yesterday, got put back on shelf for that very reason.
As far as fish oil and flaxseed. I do both.... I eat ground flax seed on my cereal in the mornings, or take a supplement, and I take three 2400 mg fish oil a day- seems like an over kill- and also doesn't seem to make a difference. It did when I fist started it, but not now. I also take fiber and eat high fiber. not to mention the garlic and regular vitamins I take. I am trying to focus more on diet at this point.
You know, my husband asked me last night, if I was going to be a vegetarian before long, lol. I said, I don't know, maybe. I am going to try and cut out the meats. So, I have hope for myself. The hardest is cooking for them and not eating it. I made tator tot casserole the other day, and had a heck of a time, not tasting and picking at it.
One thing that is good, is that I love food and love trying new things. So, that keeps me busy in the kitchen. I don't really feel like I am depriving myself by trying not to eat meat. It's just challenging trying to think up new recipes and what not.
I do love chili and make a pretty good substitute for it. My husband and son even ate some, lol. So, it must been alright if they ate it.
Anyway, those are some of my thoughts on this journey to cut out the meats in my life....
Thanks for all the advise!!!!!
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 24 September 2008 11:48 am |
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CrimsonAnimus wrote: cportwine wrote: Ok, I weighed in this morning at 124lbs. Glad to see my binge week, is going down now. I got out of control and now things are getting back to normal. Plus, I put on a shirt this morning, that I have not wore in six months or so, cause it was to tight. Well, it fits good. So, that put a smile on my face.... 
Way to go, Cindy! 
Thanks Nick, I am hoping the scale is even nicer to me today.... 
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 24 September 2008 11:58 am |
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Well, yesterday was good. I was full and happy all day. So, we will see what today is like. I am debating on what to eat already.
I have a ton of fish in the freezer that I smoked awhile back. So, I can either have some of that or some cod that I didn't smoke. I think, I might have some of the smoked salmon. I am also, going to make some red beans and rice today. I really wanted to get a rice cooker yesterday, but walmart didn't have any in stock (they make me so mad something) So, I will just have to do it myself, I guess. Also, going to make some fat free pudding....yum....
Anyway, that should be good.
So, goals for today, is to be animal products free. Also, I really need to get some stuff done around here. I won't be walking today with the kids, full house. So, just make it through the day and exercise tonight.
Not much for goals, lol....
Oh yea, don't know if I put this down or not. I did have some cheerios and walnuts last night and some tuna. Then I walked 4 miles. I think I was under for calories yesterday, but wasn't really hungry at all.
ok, will update again after weigh in...... Let's hope the scale is nice to me today...
124lbs, I think tomorrows will be better. Gee, it's nice to be back on track...
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suenos Moderator

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Posted: 24 September 2008 02:42 pm |
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Hi! I don't think I've ever posted in your diary before ....anyway I just wanted to suggest getting a copy of "Cooking the Whole Foods Way" by Christina Pirello. Except for a section on fish, the rest of the recipes (500 of 'em!) are all dairy, animal fat & refined or fake sugar free - and as awful as that probably sounds I've made almost all of them over the last couple years and they all turn out delicious. It's not 500 new ways to make salads ...p she has stuff like a truly kick-a$$ recipie for Rasberry Barbeque Sauce and a I Can't Believe It's Not Cheese Sauce using miso (one of the very few ways I can stand tofu)...there's a crazy good recipe for Olive Nut Bread, lots of deserts (pies/cakes/cookies/tortes/biscotti/tarts: the Watermelon Freeze is simple and yummy and the Coco-Locos are insane!) that you can't believe didn't come from a bakery and tons of ways to cook veggies ranging from light soups, hearty stews, dips, crepes - there's even a Millet & Veggie Burger recipe that goes great with daikon "fries".....anyway, (I promise she's not paying me) but this is like the best $18 bucks 'I've ever spent on a cook-book....
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 24 September 2008 04:13 pm |
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suenos wrote: Hi! I don't think I've ever posted in your diary before ....anyway I just wanted to suggest getting a copy of "Cooking the Whole Foods Way" by Christina Pirello. Except for a section on fish, the rest of the recipes (500 of 'em!) are all dairy, animal fat & refined or fake sugar free - and as awful as that probably sounds I've made almost all of them over the last couple years and they all turn out delicious. It's not 500 new ways to make salads ...p she has stuff like a truly kick-a$$ recipie for Rasberry Barbeque Sauce and a I Can't Believe It's Not Cheese Sauce using miso (one of the very few ways I can stand tofu)...there's a crazy good recipe for Olive Nut Bread, lots of deserts (pies/cakes/cookies/tortes/biscotti/tarts: the Watermelon Freeze is simple and yummy and the Coco-Locos are insane!) that you can't believe didn't come from a bakery and tons of ways to cook veggies ranging from light soups, hearty stews, dips, crepes - there's even a Millet & Veggie Burger recipe that goes great with daikon "fries".....anyway, (I promise she's not paying me) but this is like the best $18 bucks 'I've ever spent on a cook-book....
God, it's making me hungry just reading about it. lol, I will do a search and see what I come up with.... thanks! 
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 24 September 2008 04:18 pm |
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So far so good! I had two pieces of toast and a banana this morning. I couldn't really decide what to eat, so I just made toast.
For lunch I will be having red beans and rice- that I am making. I am already having trouble staying out of the beans. I didn't think they would cook so fast, but they are done all ready. So, I making the rice now. Can't decide if I should eat all this on tortillas or just the way it is. I decided against the salmon. I have some tuna steaks in the refrigerator that need to be used. So, I will probably have that.
Now, all I need are some raw fruits and veggies- Those will probably be a snack later... with my stupid cheerios and walnuts.
wil update later
Well, after two bites of tuna steak, it went in the garabage. So, alls I basically had was rice and beans, with tomotoe, lettuce, taco sauce on a whole wheat tortilla.
Then I had two clementines. I will probably have some canned tuna later to make up the fish I didn't eat. I don't think it really matters at this point.
Well, headed out for a walk here after the bus comes. The kids are so wild today, driving me crazy . So, got to wear them out. A walk to the park should do it... 
will update later
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 25 September 2008 12:23 pm |
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Well, not real sure where I left off. I was hoping to get better scores with the scale today, but I don't see that happening. I went over a bit yesterday with the beans and rice. I can tell. I am tired, bloated, and would pay a million bucks to have the whole day just to sleep. I manage to get in my 4 miles yesterday. My husband and me had a pow wow last night, which is why I was up so late. He is concerned about his health, as he should be. He says he is tired and wore out all the time. Which is the same reason, that I decided to lose weight (three or four years ago). He wants me to help him. I don't have a problem with that. But, he is difficult and won't give up certain things. So, unless he decides to do something about it, then my efforts will be wasted. So, will see what happens.
So, I am going to try and get in some exercise today, so I can nap later today. I NEED SLEEP!!! If I don't get any in today, then I just may skip it. I have exercised everyday, since sat. I normally take more time off from it. So, it wouldn't kill me to skip a day, in the name of sleep.
Since I am just rambling and not making sense, I will go now, and update later, when I am more awake...
Ok, I am a little more awake now. And I was right, the stupid scale said 126lbs. I knew it wasn't going to be good. I can tell how bloated I am. Today, is just going to be one of those days. I just in a mood (being tired does that to a person). I been fricking cold all morning, so I am sitting here hugging my little heater, drinking hot tea.
Alright, goals for today. Get in some exercise before noon. Try not to pig out- which is hard when I am tired- some how I think eating will make me less tired, lol. definitely, take a 20 min. power nap... I hope today with the kids is better. Yesterday, they were wild all day. I was going to take them for a walk to wear them out. But, I think that was the whole problem. We went outside and someone was having a melt down every few seconds. So, we had naptime, instead of walking. I think that is just what they needed. Everyone was out cold in about two seconds. So, if we walk today, it will have to be this morning, so we can have naptime.
Food for today, will be this stir fry that I made for the family last night. It smells and looks good, so can't wait for that. I am going to try and stay away from the beans and rice today (for obvious reasons). Maybe have tuna salad with my stir fry or something. I got to cut back on the carbs. They make me really full (which is good), but they also make me pack on the weight.
Ok, I am just rambling again....
Will update again later..........
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 25 September 2008 03:12 pm |
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Well, not to bad. I already had two cookies , a piece of toast, and a small cup of coco.
I really need to stay focused today. I am losing it fast. I didn't even care when I ate the two cookies. Right now, I am chugging tea, in hopes to avoid more eating.
Ok, I have got to do something beside sit here and think about food......
Will update later...
Well, I am definitely fighting a losing battle today. I think I will just forget about it today. I have had cookies, tofu, rice, beans, mini candy bar, mixed nuts, cheerios, etc.
I am totally stuffed and I was not even hungry when eating all that. I hate it when I lose control. I can't wait until 4pm- I am taking a nap.... period!!!! I need some sleep, so I can get back on track......God! I hate my life sometimes.
Ok, I am feeling better now. I am totally stuffed and probably won't eat again today. I went out and did some garden work and got a few other things done. I also, enter in my calories for the day and I am about at 1700 calories. So, if I exercise, then I should be ok with that. I know I won't lose with that, but at least I might be able to keep from gaining any. I have got to get my #%@&! together. Sometimes I don't get how I even lost so much. Cause now, alls I do is maintain. I can't just lose the last few pounds. Ticks me off. I think I will walk outside tonight, maybe go for a bike ride. Anything to get out of this house and away from all the food...
Tomorrow has got to be better...
Last edited on 25 September 2008 09:03 pm by cportwine
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 26 September 2008 01:13 pm |
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Yesterday, I ate way to much to even write it all down. I think I ended up somewhere around 2200 calories for the day.
I did walk last night. I ended up with over 6miles....yeah! for me... 
I started out just walking outside, got in 2.30 doing that. Then hit the treadmill for the rest of the night. Was going really well, so just kept going.
I felt really good about this since I had a binge and needed to work some of it off.
Also, weigh in this morning. 122lb- go figure.... Maybe my scale is jacked up.... anyway, don't really care- my average is still at 124lb. which is ok....
Will update later...
Ok, goals for today. To get in some exercise and stay out of the junk food. I think I will either have fish or a blt-made with turkey bacon for lunch. Oh, maybe I can have some shrimp, I forgot that I had bought some. I know it's high in cholesterol, but it's still good for you. So, that can be my treat later....
It's going good today. So far, I have had one cookie, oatmeal ones that I make ( I alter them this time, to leave out the egg, and they taste more like banana nut bread,oh well ), then I had one mini snickers bar (I knew I should not of bought those), and a blt sandwich for lunch (made with turkey bacon, lettuce, tomoto, and fat free dressing on whole wheat toast).
So, I think I am doing good so far. I Think I am going to take a nap. I wanted to go walking with the little one that I have today, but she already fell asleep. I am thinking she has the right idea.... 
will update later....
Ok, I had a tomato, two clementines, a few grapes, an apple, I don't know, but I am starving.
So, now I have the house to myself and don't know what to do with myself. My son is at the game, they have to stay for the varsity, and my daughter is out with the bf, and my husband is at a swap meet. So, here I sit bored out of my mind. I was thinking of maybe renting a movie and hitting the treadmill. It's not like I have anything else to do . It's pathetic. Here I sit, with a nice outfit on with no place to go.
Well, instead of sitting here feeling sorry for myself, I guess I will go and try to find something to do..... maybe I will stop by a friends house or something.
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CrimsonAnimus Moderator

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Posted: 26 September 2008 06:29 pm |
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Way to go on the 6 miles!
It's also good to see you've recovered quickly from your binge and are moving on. As you've said, that's what it means to maintain. 
Keep it up! 
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 27 September 2008 12:41 am |
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Thanks Nick! Yea, I was surprised that I had that in me after eating a ton, lol.
But, I guess the body works in weird ways....
So, hoping after the weekend, I will be back down to that magical number of 121lbs....
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 27 September 2008 02:57 pm |
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Ok, well yesterday went well. I can't wait to see what the scale has to say to me this morning. It better be good!
Last night I walked 4miles. That puts me over about 6 miles for this week. I am really proud of that and the fact that I didn't pig out last night when I was hungry. Just watched my movies and fell asleep.
oh yea, forgot, I wore my new shoes that I got last night. What a difference. It was like walking on a cloud. I also decide to stop and look on the way at some shoes. I think if these cheap ones are that great then I should really try and get the nb845s. I would imagine they will be even better...
So, today will be a challenge, going to see friends and can't decide what to do. Eat before we go, or save the calories in case they want to eat some that is not on my diet. I have to try and be good. I haven't had cheese all week, so I think what I do will be ok, for one day.
So, goals for today are not to eat totally stupid and be active. Walk around allot and have fun watching all the things going on. We are going to a festival thing. So, should be fun with lots to do.
Ok, got to hit the shower and get ready for the big day....
will update later....
122lbs was the weigh in this morning..
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 29 September 2008 03:21 am |
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Sat- Didn't go as planned. I ate to much and ate stuff I shouldn't have. We went to the festival and ate like pigs, then later that night had pizza. Plus, I had already ate before we left.
Got to say, I did have this apple Carmel pie- that was to die for and the pizza was like a dream come true.
So, I will have to be real good and make up for it this week. Back to being strict with myself.
Sunday- not much better, I had a ton of toast and a pancake for breakfast. Then was good until after I walked. Then I had some beans and rice, a hebrew, more beans, and a fat free icecream treat with a snickers bar and peanuts. I am sure I stayed in my calories range, since I did walk 4 miles. But, I feel bloated and miserable.
Probably from overeating the last two day. I need a cleanse tomorrow, get my system back to normal. So, going for a low cal day tomorrow.
I will also be posting some pics here soon. I have been having fun with the camera on my new phone. This will be for my pleasure, but you all are welcome to comment.
ok, Overall for the week, I didn't eat allot of meat, I only had real cheese on one day, instead of everyday. I did get in some fish. So, I think for the week, I have made progress to lower my cholesterol. Baby Steps should help, improve my scores.
Goals for tomorrow, reality check on the scale, exercise, and do lots of fruits and veggies.
Will update in the morning after weigh in... 
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cportwine Senior Member

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Posted: 29 September 2008 12:08 pm |
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Ok, well I got the weekend pretty much updated and I really want to get back on track today. Should be pretty easy, I have a big day planned. I want to get back down to 121lbs by weds weigh in for the challenge. So, I have got to be strong and well disciplines. That's all fine and dandy when I write it down. But, I hope I can pull it off.
I haven't weighed in yet. So, not sure what kind of damage the weekend has done. But, the way I felt last night, I am sure I will be up a few pounds.
On another note. I am so ticked off. I got those nikies this weekend, and wouldn't you know it, kohls send me a flyer this morning in my email, with shoes on sale. Yep, same shoe I bought about 20 dollars cheaper....aggghhhh, that ticks me off.
Also, my husband is really getting on my nerves the last few days, so I hope that doesn't effect my weight lose efforts. I am not going to go into details, he just is really ticking me off lately. I will say, Why do people keep trying to wake you up when you are sleeping. It is so stupid. I fell asleep on the couch yesterday, and I swear he woke me up every fricking 5 mins. Asking me if I was going to get up. What difference did it make when I was going to get up. Not like I had anything to do. geeezzzz, really ticked me off. I did however get a ton of sleep yesterday/last night and I feel great today, because of it. So, I don't know, maybe he was just worried. Who knows...
ok, will update after weigh in... 
124lbs....not to bad....should be able to get that back down by wed...
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Sassykat Distinguished Member

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Posted: 29 September 2008 05:10 pm |
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| Just read through some of your diary (sorry I don't get much of a chance to read through too many diaries) and I've got to say I love your car you posted on page 3! Nice! I love old cars. Once a year we have a Early Iron festival here and I love looking at all the cars.
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