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Hiker
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 Posted: 5 June 2008 01:21 pm
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HI, I am looking for a diet buddy or ideally diet buddies. I am in my mid fifties and I have been on Weight Watchers and the Fat Loss 4 Idiots diet as well as a myriad of other diets. Weight Watchers is the only one I could really live with but I am not up to going back... I've heard it all, I just need to do it! I am looking to loose weight with a low calorie/low carb diet. I found the support of others on the FL4I sight very motivating, it just wasn't the diet for me. I would love to find others who like me have been struggling with this for a while and can relate to the battle we fight every day and would like to have an on-line diet buddy. 

I enjoy walking, hiking, bike riding---not that I do enough of it obviously but I do enjoy them :grin:.

Hiker

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 Posted: 11 June 2008 07:27 pm
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Well it's been a week and no buddy. Guess I will go it alone. I've actually had a pretty good week, kept my calories under 1300 which is my goal. I have also started walking again, I used to walk 5 miles every day but then foot problems sidelined me. I am back up to 2 miles every day and I am just trying to make it a habit again. Why are good habits so hard to establish and bad ones so easy? It's been so hot here I haven't been able to take the dogs:dog::dog::dog: with me :nono:, walking without them is just not as much fun. I have started having yogurt for my morning snack instead of fruit and that has helped me increase my calcium some, it's probably better overall considering the carbs in fruit.

Anyway, if anyone reads this and is interested in buddying up let me know.

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 Posted: 11 June 2008 08:50 pm
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Hey hiker,

How's it going?  I just saw your post.

I know the battle.  I've done weight watchers, Atkins, Sustical, etc.  For years I've lost, put it on, lost, etc.  The last one was Atkins and I lost 40 only to gain back 60.

I started seriously taking a look at what my habits were.  This site was a godsend in that it gave me knowledge of what happens to my body, why I gain weight and what was needed to take it off.  I thought long and hard about this and I came to some new realizations.

1. The term "diet" is not good.  It implies something temporary in our culture.  I needed to make a lifestyle change and that meant for life.

2. Programs didn't work for me.  This goes back to the "diet" aspect.  Weight Watchers is a good program but it's just that.  Once you get off the point counting, it's not easy to get to a realistic lifestyle.  At least this is my perspective. 

3. I have to eat fat, carbs, protein, etc.  To cut any group out is not good.  We need them all to live a healthy lifestyle.  It's what we eat and how much.

4. Exercise.  A must!  Aerobic and strength training.

I've been working to change my habits since last July.  I've counted calories and can now recognize portion sizes of certain foods and know what my intake is, more or less.  I've also developed tastes for several things I didn't think much of before.  I've cut out desserts, booze, deep fried stuff but will occasionally have them.  This way I don't feel deprived.  If we're to adjust our lifestyle we have to acknowledge that these things are part of life.  A vacation here, a wedding there, a holiday or two.  You get the idea.

My weight will fluctuate for the rest of my life so I'll weigh in everyday and make sure I get the calories I need to maintain and continue to work out.

As of this past Monday I'm down 87 lbs.  :grin:  Life is good!

Hang in there, hiker and let me know how you're doing. 

Oh, by the way, my wife and I went on our first hike on vacation last month in Tn in the Smokey Mountain National Park.  Beautiful!

Bert

  

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 Posted: 13 June 2008 03:01 pm
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Hey PBF, thanks for the post, it was really motivating and it sounds like you and I are approaching this the same way...just eat sensibly and excercise.

WOW, 87 lbs is fantastic! I bet you couldn't have done that hike before the weight loss.

 I hear what your saying about moderation especially on the sweets and deep fried stuff. I usually limit myself to fried claims once each summer and then I get a big order and lots of tartar and just enyoy every bite. I don't feel guilty becuase it's once a year. The desserts are a downfall for me and I am trying to get into the mindset just like w/ the clams....a few times a year is fine but it can't be a daily or even weekly occurance.

The Smokey mountains is a definate on my wish list, probably when we retire in a few more years. Did you do day hikes or overnight? I am a huge baby about sleeping in a tent or on the ground so we are limited to day hikes excpet in the White Mountains where there are cabins. We have stayed in them and it is a lot of fun, unfortantly no dogs and for me that's a problem. We might do one overnight this summer and put the dogs in a kennel for one night but nothing planned yet. Unfortunalty I changed jobs a little over a year ago so I only get 2 weeks vacation, not much time for hiking.

Do you and your wife enjoy any other types of excercise? My husband and I also enjoy biking...not speed biking mind you, just leisuley rides most often on old rail beds that have been converted into paths so there are no huge hills....I hate hills :devil:.

Again, congrats on your loss and good luck, it sounds like you have a plan and are sticking to it.

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 Posted: 13 June 2008 03:24 pm
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Hey Hiker,

This was our first hike and you're right, we couldn't have done it without the weight loss.  The park service describes the trail we went on a moderate.  My wife has lost 42 lbs since we began last year but she's not exercising so it was tougher for her but she made it pretty well.

This was a day hike.  We're just getting into this so we want to get used to it.  I suspect we'll do overnighters one of these days.  We're both in our 50s so we are strong believers in comfort.:grin:  Here's a link to the cabin we rented.

http://www.sugarmaplecabins.com/cabin.asp?property_id=441&group_id=

We have two dogs as well; a yellow lab and a beagle.  We put them in the kennel.  We really need our down time and we cater very well to the dogs all year long.  I don't feel guilty.:grin:

My wife just changed jobs too so her vaction goes from 3 weeks to one and she has to accrue that.  We're looking into places where we can do day hikes and not have to drive too far.

We don't have bikes and my wife isn't an exercise buff.  I think she's going to start soon though.  I have a stationary bike in the house and a weight bench.  I use these religiously.

We went to the Grand Canyon and Sedona a couple of years ago and it was spectacular.  We didn't hike though.  Maybe the next trip.

How much weight do you want to lose?  What time are you giving yourself?

Stay in touch and stay strong!

Bert

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 Posted: 14 June 2008 11:13 pm
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Hey Bert, I feel your wife's pain. I am have certain things I like but there is so much excercise I don't like. Fortuanaltey I found walking and hiking, for me I really like to be outdoors so that was the key. It took me many years to figure it out. I belong to a gym but I really thing I just want to give them my money every month for some unknown reason becuase I never go. I keep thinking I will but I don't.  I don't mind the cold so even in the winter I would rather walk and I love to snow shoe. There is nothing like the woods in the winter, I am really bad at geography but I would imagine even in NC in the mountians it snows in the winter. If so I can not tell you what a great expericne snow shoeing is, on very easy trails of course.:devil:

I would like to loose 30-40 lbs, I am taking it slow and have kind of set a goal of loosing it by Thanksgiving. I am hoping if I can loose the weight it will motivate me to get trough the holidays without going crazy. Right now I am a little bummed in that I have been really sticking to a 1300 calories a day but I am not seeing much at the scale. I try to weigh only twice a week but I confess I've cheated and it looks like I haven't lost any this week. I will know tomorrow as that is my real weigh in day.  Ive checked a lot of sites and at 1300 calories based on my weight, height and activity level i should be losing about 1.5 lbs a week but it doesn't seem to be happening. I am trying to keep a positive attitude and just keep going but I admit it's hard. I am sure you must have had some struggles along the way, how did you get through those times when you weren't losing but you were sticking to your diet?

What type of diet are you doing? It sounds like your wife is doing fantastic too, is she trying or just benefitng from your new lifestyle? My husband has diabetes and high blood pressure so he tries to be careful to. I guess it's a life long challenge.

BTW, I saw your Mexican bean recipe on your site w/ the 3 long stem roses and it looks great. I copied it and I think I will try it this week.

It's great to hear from you keep in touch.

Hiker

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 Posted: 16 June 2008 01:52 pm
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Hey Hiker,

Yes, we have snow in the mountain in winter but without 4 wheel drive it's hard to get to them.  I think this hiking thing is going to be great for us though.  I used to hunt a great deal in my younger days and spent a great deal of time outdoors.  My wife was never one for the outdoors but she's changing her mind a great deal on this. 

I know what you mean about the frustration of not losing as quickly as you would like or not seeing the scale move.  It happens.  I actually gained over the weekend due to enjoying myself at a wedding but I'm back to what I was last Monday.  Don't give up!  The thing that keeps me going is the understanding that this is not a short term thing.  I'm making a life style change and that means FOR LIFE!  :grin:  If I gain a bit or stay the same, it's gonna happen and be part of life.  I want to enjoy things like the wedding, etc, but as long as I make those times the 5% of my life and not the 95%, I'll win over time.

My diet (I hate that term-too temporary) is really counting calories, looking at portions and exercise.  I think you're doing things fine but make sure of your calories.  Often we consume more than we think.  I know I do so I allow for a 10%-15% error.  :wink:  There are going to be times when the scale doesn't move so keep in mind that with exercise, you're mostlikely gaining some muscle and that's heavier than fat.  You'll do it.

My wife helps with the menu planning and we shop and share the cooking.  She isn't exercising though (#%^@) and she's still losing.  I guess she has that metabolism.  She is eating well though and that has a lot to do with it.

BTW, I had cholesterol and blood pressure issues too.  Not any more.  My cholesterol over all is under 200 and the bad is down significantly.  Blood pressure is normal and the doc has taken me off the meds.  Sugar went from 99 to 81!  All in all I'm getting pretty healthy and my doc is really happy.  I am too.  :grin:

Hang in there and don't let the slowness get to you.  It's a process and it's about a healthy life style and not the scale.  See how your clothes fit too.  That's a great measure.

Bert

 

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 Posted: 18 June 2008 07:26 pm
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Hello, Hiker and Bert,

My name is Anne and I just saw your posts.  It sounds like you two are serious losers - ha!  I would like to be as well!

I have struggled with weight all my life.  Although I have not tried as many fad diets as it sounds like each of you have, I have certainly "dieted".  By the way, I don't consider WW to be a fad diet like Atkins- it can be decently balanced.  Like Bert, at the beginning of this year, I had a realization that diets don't work for me - I have to sign up for a lifestyle change.  Even so, I wanted the lifestyle change to come with weight loss and the lifestyle would help me to keep it off.

I lost 30 lbs in about 3 months (my initial goal was 35) but since April, I have not been very successful losing.  It is not surprising because I have not been as focused as I was at first.  Every time I gain a few pounds, I have jumped on those to lose them but I haven't kept going.  I feel that I am ready now to get that focus and momentum back.  Once I get to 35 lbs, I plan to set another weight loss goal, probably for another 15.

This site has been a big help to me.  This is the first time I have ever really counted calories religiously.  Now I see that even though I never really had horrible eating habits, those 50 calorie nibbles can really add up over time!  I have enjoyed the buddy forums and have been in one since January - but my buddies have slowly fallen away.  Just today I posted to see if anyone was out there (the forum is losing weight in 2008) so we'll see what happens.

Then I saw this forum and I was wondering if you would mind if I joined you (assuming my buddies don't want to be on the site much).  I am willing to commit to 3 months of encouraging and posting on mostly a daily basis.  (Peter made a suggestion that buddies should make a commitment to each other for a period of time and then are more likely to be successful).

So what do you say?  I can contribute to the hiking discussions.  I live in the middle of big hiking country in the San Juan Mountains in Southwest Colorado!  The trails are NOT flat by any stretch of the imagination, but the scenery is beautiful.  My goal is to be able to continue to do these until I die (I am 50 now so hopefully no time soon).

Hiker, I think your will power is amazing when it comes to desserts!  Since I was looking at this very long term, I decided that I would not be happy if I could not have treats.  So I allowed myself about 130 calories per day for a treat - a half cup of ice cream, 2 small cookies, a couple small pieces of chocolate, etc.  I really wasn't sure if this would work because I was worried that once I got started, I would not stop.  But it has worked well - just knowing that I can have a little bit keeps me satisfied - and I know I can stick to it long term.  I thought I'd throw that out to you in case you are feeling like you need  a treat now and then.  Of course, there will still be days that I over-indulge but like Bert, as long as those are the exceptions, I think it will be OK.

Hope to hear from you,
Anne

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 Posted: 18 June 2008 07:42 pm
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Hi Anne,

Welcome to our group.  Of course you can join.  We can all use the additional encouragement!

I love it out west.  I envy you.  Maybe one day my wife and I will retire out there somewhere.  We have very good friends in AZ and we love it there.

I'm 56, by the way and in the best shape I've been in in the past 20 years.  I'm on the edge of being under 200 lbs for the first time in 20 years.  My wife an I are just getting into hiking and we love the outdoors.  Any and all ideas, suggestions, equipment, etc. is welcome.

Counting calories and exercise is the only thing that works for me.  Congratulations on 30 lbs.  You'll get to the 45-50 mark.  Just stay focused.  For me, it's really a matter of habit changing as I mentioned.  This way the focus becomes somewhat automatic.  I do have a goal of losing 100 lbs and I hope to hit that by the end of July.  If I don't, I'm not worried.  I'll hit it eventually since this is going to be a life long change.  After that I'll fine tune and then maintenance.  I suspect I'll be on the forums for quite some time.

I don't think an indulging snack is bad at all as long as you take it into consideration in your overall calorie count.  You won't feel deprived either.  I try to do it only once or twice a month though.  If I do it more frequently I'll never be able to change my habits.  Right now my snacks are fruit, 60 calorie yogurt, 100 cal popcorn, 70 calorie sugar free pudding, you get the idea.  I always count these into my overall daily count.  The really special treats like, let's say, DQ Blizzard with Reese's Peanut Butter Cups:shock:is something I'll reward myself with.  As long as it's the exception rather than the rule, I'll be ok.  Let's face it; this is all part of life and as such, should be part of a lifestyle.

Glad you're with us Anne.

Stay in touch!

Bert

 

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 Posted: 19 June 2008 02:09 am
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Anne, welcome, it's great to have another buddy....the more the merrier I say. Sorry to say the past couple of days have been absolutley crazy for me so I haven't bee on the site much. I think tomorrow should be a little better and I will actually get on here and chat. I'm glad you decided to stop in and join us. I see you're from Colorado, my daughter lives there and I think it is a beautiful state. "talk" to you both later.

Hiker

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 Posted: 19 June 2008 04:50 am
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Thanks, Bert and Hiker,

I am excited to be in a forum again!  I wish us all great luck in losing weight!

Hiker, where does your daughter live?  I live near Telluride - about 350 miles southwest of Denver.  It's closer to Utah and the Four Corners area.  I do love it here; I don't know how I am so blessed.  It's small town though so not for everyone (thank goodness!).

It sounds like we are all fairly close in age - I'm 50 - EEEK!  How did THAT happen?  It's easier for me to tell my age than my weight - that has always been a pretty taboo subject - I don't even let the doctor weigh me!  But I'm 5'8 and wear a size 10.  Before I lost the 30 lbs, I could not get into alot of my clothes.  Now I can again and that feels good but I'd really like to be a size 8.  That means shopping for some new clothes and I don't like shopping.  I think this is partly why I have lost some momentum - I'm sort of comfortable in the clothes I have right now.  Well, time to move on!

I am pretty good about exercising but l don't know if any amount is ever enough.  When I lived in the big city, I used to go to the health club and I actually liked that alot.  I liked the access to good equipment and I liked seeing other people.  Now I don't have access to a health club.  So, I bought a really good cross trainer a few years ago and I use that mostly for day to day exercise, as well as some free weights.  Then I also walk, bike (some), ski, hike, snow shoe, etc.  I consider the latter things to be mostly for fun although I know it's exercise too.  My overall fitness goal is to be in good enough shape to do all the physical things I want to do.  So far, so good.

Speaking of exercise, there is an amazing race near where I live that you might want to check out just for fun called the Hardrock 100.  I am not in good enough shape to do this but it does not fall into the category of something I want to do either!  It's an extreme race and really puts into perspective that my cross trainer might as well be a couch!  Here is a short description:

The fifteenth running of the Hardrock Hundred Mile Endurance Run is scheduled to start at 6:00 am, Friday July 11, 2008, in Silverton, Colorado. In 2008, the course will be run clockwise - a big loop through the San Juan Mountains of beautiful southwest Colorado: Silverton - Ophir - Telluride - Ouray - Sherman (Lake City) - Silverton, 100 miles, 33,000' total elevation gain, 11,186' average elevation, low point 7,680' at Ouray, high point 14,048' at Handies Peak.

By the way, this is a continuous race.  The winner last year came in at over 24 hours.  If you decide you want to do it, you can stay at my house!

I had a good day today, by the way.  1250 calories (a little low) and a fair amount of exercise.

Good luck to you all!
Anne

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 Posted: 19 June 2008 12:00 pm
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Bert & Anne, first I just want to say I am so glad to have some diet buddies, I really think it helps a lot. I'm glad you are both interested in hiking but I am sure we will find many other common grounds.

Anne, you are right it looks like we are all in the same age category...I do think that helps only in that at different stages of your life you have different challenges...we are all having the slowing metabolism challenge for one! And Bert and I both are facing cooking for 2 which can be a blessing in many ways but a challenge too.

I am sorry I have been a little remiss with this site...and my diet I'm afraid. I am having some remodeling done and I work at home...it has made for some very stressful days and that has sent me right into the salty/sweet thing....you know you eat one and then have to have the other and so on and so on. I have not given up hope but I am a little disappointed in myself. Oh well, I will get back on this wagon. Tonight I have to go to my nephews pre-school graduation ( I guess they have about 4 graduations before high school now :devil:) anyway, he is a sweetie and I don't mind but of course I know he will pick some place for dinner that won't have great choices and of course there is the cake and ice cream.  This too will pass. Then on Saturday my granddaughter is here from Colorado so we will have another challenge. Just one of those weeks for me....we all have them.

Anne my daughter lives in Colorado Springs, she went out there when she was in the Air Force and fell in love with Colorado and her husband and we never got her back. Two summers ago I was working for a few weeks in Angleworm, it was so beautiful. I really do like Colorado....not as much as Massachusetts--after all they don't have the Red Sox but the weather is very nice and the countryside is beautiful. I did miss the trees but the weather was a great trade off.

It sounds like we are all trying to make some real life style changes, acutaully it sounds like both of you have already made some great strides. Mine have been smaller,  I lost 20 lbs and kept 15 of it off for about a year now but I've been stuck. I still want to loose around 35 more so I need to get serious. I haven't weighed myself this week, mostly becuase I know it is not going to be good news but I will do that this week end. The remodeling is going to be going on for a couple of weeks so I am just going to have to get used to the noise and commotion....I am so spoiled working from home I am used to haveing pretty much complete silence.

BTW....I have checked the box at the bottom that says to notify me by email when replies are posted but so far I have not been notified once. Do either of you know what I might have done wrong?

Sorry for such a long post, just trying to catch up.

Hiker/Fran


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 Posted: 19 June 2008 02:19 pm
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Hi ladies,

It's good to hear from you.  Hiker, I only get notified if someone replies directly to my post so I have to make sure I check daily to see if someone else posts too.  I'm going to see what I can find out.  I've checked the box too.  I wonder if there's a way when we reply to one that we can copy others.  Peter can help us too.

Anne, at 5'8" and size 10, you don't seem to be terribly over weight.  You're definitely on the right track.  My wife is on this life change with me and has lost 42 lbs since last July.  She's 53, about 5'5" and went from a 16 to an 8.  Some things a 6.  What ticks me off is that she hasn't done a lick of exercise!!!:angry:  She has to start and she knows it but when is to be determined.  We have the stationary bike, weight bench and free weights in the house.

The race you're talking about is insane!!!  There's no air out there:shock:  Granted, it's clean air but there just isn't enough of it to go around. 

Hiker, I feel your pain regarding the re-modeling.  Last spring we had a new roof, the house trim repaired and painted, new gutter work, new HVAC duct work, two new air conditioning units and a new furnace.  All was being done at the same time!!!:dizzy:  Crazy, not to mention expensive.

I'd like to join the local YMCA but my wife just got laid off so $$ are slim right now.  I'd like the Y because I can really mix up my routine.  I think that's good.

Also, enjoy the graduation celebration.  It's all part of life and since we're making life changes, one or two days won't hurt.  What we do 5% of the time vs. 95% of the time is what's critical.  The 5% should be fine.  Just try to plan a good exercise regimen during that time to minimize the impact.

Have a great day ladies!

Bert 

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 Posted: 19 June 2008 07:50 pm
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Bert, I am sorry to hear your wife lost her job....that really stinks. I don't know what your town has but I know here the city has a lot of free summer outside activities that can be a lot of fun. Are you home during the day? Our recreation dept offers a lot of nice walks, some hikes as well as tennis and a few other more ambitious activities. You might want to check it out, for years I was unaware we even had these. I agree it's great if you can mix up your routine a little. Any chance for swimming? They say that is a great activity. Another thing we have done is get a state park pass, lots to do there and not too expensive. It must be hard for your wife, if I understand, this was a fairly new job? That is the trouble, once you lose a job then your the first to go at the next job and it's a tough cycle. Best of luck to her.

Hiker/Fran

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 Posted: 19 June 2008 07:59 pm
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Hi,

Thanks for the kind words.  She's been through the mill and on an emotional rollercoaster.

She was forced out of her position of 14 years when the practice she works at was bought.  She interviewed with a guy and it seemed all was well but when she got into the job she learned that the lady she replaced was only there a little while and was fired.  So was the lady before her.  There were two additional women in the office and one turned her resignation in on Monday and yesterday was her last day.  The other one that's there has only been there a month and my wife said she's really frazzled.  The guy said he needed someone with experience on the particular software package they had.  She told him in the beginning that she didn't but he didn't seem to think it was an issue.  There were other things too such as getting on his hands and knees to scrub out a small spot on the carpet, arranging chairs in the waiting room and going back and back to make sure they alligned, etc.  A bit O/C.  She's probably better off but it's still very disappointing.

We have  plenty of stuff to do in the surrounding area with regard to hiking, etc.  I work during the day so we have to hit them on the weekends.  We live just outside of Charlotte and it's pretty cosmopolitan.  Swimming is at the Y.

Thanks for your thoughts.  Please keep her in your prayers.

Bert

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 Posted: 19 June 2008 09:17 pm
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Greetings, Bert and Fran,

It was fun reading your posts and getting to know more about you.  Remodeling, working at home, poor luck with a job, Massachusetts, Charlotte... thanks for sharing!

Bert, I am also sorry to hear about your wife's job.  Is she looking for something else?  I hope she can find something that is a better fit for her.  That way, she'll be able to look back and say it was a good thing that this happened.

Hiker, your daughter lives in Colorado Springs?  Tell her I have a very nice house for sale there!  My husband and I are still trying to sell our house in the Springs - it has been a very slow market.  He is building our house in southwest Colorado.  It's not done but we do spend alot of time here.  Since this is where we will ultimately end up, I say this is where we live even though we are "in between".  I work out of my home as well - the co I work for is based in DC - so I can work anywhere I have a phone and internet connection.  Right now I'm taking a break for lunch.

I have found working at home to be a challenge with respect to eating.  The kitchen is too close!  I have really had to work on the nibbling habit.  I can't say I've overcome it, but I am managing the temptations better.  A couple weeks ago I bought a bag of chips - big mistake - I could not leave them alone.

I'm on track for today.  Exercised this am, have been eating well.  By the way, I have posted some of my favorite recipes to this site if you are looking for something.  Breakfast burritos and pumpkin muffins are life savers for me.  Do you guys have things that make your healthy eating life style easier?  You know, tastes good and good for you?

I don't know about the e-mail notification.  I am getting notified of your posts, Fran, but not Bert's. 

Well, on my way to 35 lbs!

Anne

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 Posted: 20 June 2008 11:51 am
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Bert, Anne...good morning.

Anne, building a house....now that makes my remodeling headache seem small. Is it your "retirement" dream home? We built ours 12 house 12 years ago and now we are just upgrading a few things we couldn't afford to do at first. Building a home is exciting, this was the first time we did that...I think you need a couple of tries to get it right. Our problem is we absolutely love our lot so we're here to stay and will just have to deal with our other "mistakes".  When you were in Colorado Springs you must have gone to the Garden of the gods? It was several years ago but I am still inspired but the incredible beauty of that place. We went every morning, around 6 am and the quiet and beauty where spectacular. I've been later in the day but the mornings....I can not describe them.

I too work at home, it has it's drawback, like unlimited access to food but I hope I never have to go back to an office. I love this working at home thing. Why more companies don't do it I'll never know. I am way more productive at home than I ever was in an office and I am so much happier in my job.

Bert, you don't happen to work at home too do you? Just wondering it would just be a weird coincidence. Boy it sounds like your wife is better off...that guy sounds like a nut case to me. I will keep her in my thoughts and I hope something turns up soon, I know being out of work is devastating to a persons ego. Unless of course that is what they want but it doesn't sound like that is the case. One positive is it sounds like she keeps her weight under control. When my last company left and about 200 people were out of work, I swear the large women had so much more of a hard time finding jobs no matter how competent they were. Not fair but I swear it's a fact so she can feel good about that at least, she'll have a leg up.

I got through the graduation without too much trouble and I am trying to get off to a good start today. I plan to take the dogs for a long walk this afternoon and to keep on track diet wise. I'll let guys know how it goes. I started the day with cottage cheese, which I actually really like and I hope to stay on track.

BTW, I think both of you said you were on WW at one time or antoher, me too. I do think it is the best one out there but this time I want to learn to manage the calorie intake myself rather than depending on the points system. But basically I think WW has a good system. I think a major part of the success w/ WW at least for me was the support that is why I am so glad to have some diet buddies to do this with, I really think that makes a difference. And I swear I won't always be so long winded.

Fran

 

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Hi ladies,

Fran, I used to work out of the house for many years.  I was in sales and traveled a lot and had one day a week for administrative stuff and had an office in the house.  I did this for a major portion of my career.  I now work for our local community college.  It's a long story how this came about but it's a completely different career than what I was in.  I started making the transition to a new career when I was 44.  I'm on one of our campuses (we have 6) in the Corporate & Continuing Education end of the college.  I'm responsible for the foreign language program, the Notary Public training program and a little bit of APICS.

I've been to Garden of the gods and it is spectacular!  I love it out west!

Fran, I feel the same way that you do about WW.  It is a good program but I had to learn to recognize types and portions of foods and calorie amounts on my own.  For me it is a matter of incorporation knowledge about these things as I change my habits and make them part of my life.  So far so good.  Monday is my official weigh in day but as of this morning I'm at 200 lbs.  That's 90 lbs GONE!!!  I hope to be under 200 by Monday.  It will be the first time in 20 years.

Have a great weekend ladies.  I know I will! :grin:

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Bert, no matter what Monday brings 90lbs is fantastic. I'm sure you know that but I just had to congratulate you. :sun:

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Wow, Bert, that is great!  90 lbs is a small person!  I'm rooting for you to get below 200 by Monday.  I know that will be a huge emotional lift!

Bert can do it, yes he can!  If anyone can lose it, Bert's the man!  Oh sorry, just a little cheerleading there!

How about you, Fran?  Any short term goal you are shooting for?

My short term goal is the next 5 lbs to get me to 35 lbs.  I have been good the past two days.  Today I have gotten my exercise - 40 minutes on the cross trainer and free weights.  Plus today is my day off so I'll be doing some major house cleaning.  Not fun necessarily, but active.

Fran, I've been working at home for 11 years and I also like it alot.  Not only do I now want to go into an office but I never want video cam either!  I do alot of web meetings and if I had to get dressed up - well, that would be awful!

Bert, what do you do at the college?  I am intrigued - continuing education and foreign language - quite a mix!  And what is APICS?  What is your job, Fran?  Mine is a little hard to explain.  The company I work for has the largest executive network in the world - we bring them together and deliver research & networking opportunities.  I am a senior research director so get involved alot with delivering service to clients.

Yes, building a house is a big undertaking, especially since my husband is doing all the work himself.  He has been working on it for over 5 years and probably has another 5 to go.  We live in a studio over the garage - which is very nice - while he is finishing the main house.  This is the place we hope to stay forever; it is just beautiful here.  I would actually be satisfied if the house were never finished just to be able to be here and look out at the views every day.  I am very familiar with Garden of the Gods in CS - our "other" house is very close to there. 

Take care, you guys.  Happy Friday!
Anne

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Anne,

Thanks for the cheer!  I can see you doing the cartwheels now.  :grin:

I'm part of the LMPD team (Leadership, Management & Professional Developement).  We feel that language training can play a large part in that.  Many of our students need language for their jobs rather than just for a quick vacation.  We offer 4 levels of Spanish, 3 of Italian, 2 French, 2 German and 2 Mandarin Chinese.  APICS is the Association for Operations Management.  I'm not sure how the acronym applies.  The specific course I'm involved in is an exam prep course for the Certified Supply Chain Professional designation.  This is a national/global certification awarded by APICS and is recognized world wide.  Expensive course; $2000.

My responsibilities include, but are not limited to :grin:, course development, instructor staffing, scheduling, marketing, coordinating text book ordering with our 6 campuses and the book stores and collaborating with our corporate training team by customizing courses for on-site corporate training.  I'm tired already just listing it all.  LOL! 

I'm glad it's Friday!!

Have a great one and tune in on Monday for the big weigh in results!!

Bert

 

 

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HI guys, just checking in for the day, hope all is going well for both of you.

Boy it sounds like you both have pretty exciting jobs. Me...I am a claims adjuster, I handle liability claims and Iwork in the field, meeting with people, investigating accident scenes etc. As I said I work from home but I do have to go out quite a bit so it's a nice change. It's the kind of job you fall into because you need a job but it turns out I actually really like it so I guess I'm lucky.

Anne asked about my short term goals, I have set a goal of loosing between 1-2 lbs a week...my short, short term goal is to get completely on board with my plan:devil:. I did well yesterday....until the evening then the ice cream was calling me and of course I over did it. Still it was a pretty good day overall for me a few challenges like planning on subway for lunch only to find it was closed for renovations and I ended up at Sbarro's but I made up for that slip with supper and we took the dogs to this place wear they can run off leash through acres of woods so we walked for a good hour or more with them. So overall I am satisfied.

It sounds like both of you have been doing this for a while and doing it quite well, I feel lucky that you both are here. I started in February but I was doing one of those fad things and I should no better but I was looking for a quick fix anyway now I know I am going to have to do it the right way and I am glad I have such good leads to follow. Do you guys eat out much? That is a problem for me, I hate to cook so I am always up for "lets eat out tonight" any suggestions? My husband is really flexible and will go along with whatever I want to do meal wise so I can't blame him.

Well, I am off for a girl bonding day with my 14 year old granddaughter--what to do with a 14 year old--Yikes! We're going to do the pedicure/manicure thing, then probably a little shopping...maybe a movie we'll see how bored she gets with the old grandma. I know she does not like the kinds of things we normally do...outside activities so I am trying to find stuff she can tolerate for a day. She lives so far away I only see her a few days a year so it's always hard but I want her to have some happy times of me....I may need her when I'm really old:grin:.

Have a great day guys.

 

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Happy Saturday!

I hope you have fun with your granddaughter, Fran.  I know what you mean - you want them to have a good time with you.  My husband has two daughters from a previous marriage and so I got to be a grandma!  We have a grandson who is 8 and a granddaughter who is 5.  Even though I may not be the biological grandmother, they know no difference and we have a great time together.  They are at such perfect ages where they really want to do things with you so it is fun.  I'm told that grandparents don't go through the "you don't know anything" stage like parents do so maybe we'll be lucky and they will keep wanting to hang around with us.  They also live a ways away so we see them about 4X per year.  Well, anyway, I hope you found that perfect thing to do with a 14 year old.  Pedicures and a movie sound pretty good to me!

Eating out is a problem for me as well.  Pre-January, we used to eat out alot more than we do now.  To be honest, eating out was our main form of entertainment when the weather was bad.  I was really strict from Jan 1 to mid April (only ate out 1-2 times in that whole period).  Since mid April, we have eaten out more and my weight loss has been totally stagnant.  What happens is that I work hard, lose a couple pounds (this takes about a week) and then go out to dinner - the couple pounds is back like a lost dog!  I do not go hog wild when I go out either.  Typically a roll with butter, small salad (with little dressing), and then split something with my husband.  No wine, no dessert.  If I have nothing but a salad when we eat out, I am OK as far as weight goes but I'm not really that enthused about going out to get a pretty plain salad.  I make great salads myself.  I wish I had a silver bullet on this one for you but I don't. 

One thing you might try is going out to lunch on a weekend rather than eating dinner out during the week.  At least then you have a long period before bed.  If you could have breakfast, a healthy snack and then go out for a late lunch - say 2 or 3 in the afternoon, my guess is that it would work better weight wise.  Then you could have a small snack in the evening or skip it all together.

In addition to not eating out much, I have given up alcohol for the most part.  I was not a big drinker but would have a glass of wine 2-3 times per week.  Basically, I decided I did not have room in my daily caloric allowance to drink it.  This applies to just about any drink - wine, beer, juice, milk, etc.  When I am not at the point of trying to lose weight anymore, then hopefully I will be able to add some of this back in moderation.

I have tried to substitute other things for eating out.  This is much easier when the weather is nice like it is now.  Things like a bike ride, a walk, a dip in the local hot springs (that's a good winter activitiy also) are fun and don't entail food.  Tomorrow we are going to an outdoor concert and I'll bring a little picnic of healthy things.

You both sound like you have interesting jobs.  Fran, it is such a coincidence that one of the women in the other forum I was in was also an insurance adjuster.  For a minute, I thought maybe you had changed your name and started over!  I think it is great that you like your job - what could be better than that?

Today is my fourth day in a row of being good and it is easier today than it has been the last three days so maybe I am making progress! 

Bert, I can't wait to hear what the scale says on Monday!  I'll bet you are going to break the 200 mark!

Anne

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Anne & Bert, good morning. I love Sunday mornings, no pressure just a slow day planned...a little housework and some yard work but just what ever gets done. At least I will try to keep this laid back attitude. I can easily slip back into my type A personality but it's nice to just go slow some days.

I know what you mean Anne about stringing a few good days together, once you get past a point, for me it's to get past a week end, and then it gets so much easier.

Bert, tomorrow is a big day for you, I have my fingers crossed for you.

Have a nice day.

BTW, do you think we should change our name? I have no ideas whatsoever and my creativity is about 0 but I though we might want to get a name? My only suggestion would be something that would show we are always open to others, unless you guys feel otherwise? Any suggestions?


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Hi, Bert and Fran,

Just a quick note before bed.  I didn't do extremely well today - but not horrible either.  We'll see tomorrow...

I was wondering about a name too.  We could get one or we could also "move" to the forum that I have been in since January.  It's called "losing weight in 2008".  The only reason I suggest that is because it has the second highest number of posts and reads among all the forums - Peter's keeping track of sweets is higher.  I was kind of excited about it being such an active forum and I am a little sad about leaving it behind.  I'll just open that up to you for comment.

Bert, waiting to hear on your news tomorrow!

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Good morning Anne and Bert. I have no problem with changing to the other forum if they don't mind newcomers. The only thing I am concerned about is they all sound like they are way ahead of me as far as dedication and committment go, I am still struggling to get on the band wagon. I am not sure they want to hear about those early problems? If they don't mind I am fine with it and if they don't want new people and you want to go back to your old group I certainly understand, it looks like you've been with them for quite some time. Anyway let me know how they feel about it.

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Good morning ladies!!!!  What a lovely day it is!!!!:grin:

WHOO HOO!!!!!!  199 LBS AS  OF THIS MORNING!!!!  This is the first time I've been under 200 lbs in 20 years!!!

Fran 1-2 lbs a week is great!  That's what my goals have been too.  Some weeks I hit it and others I didn't but my average over the weeks has been pretty consistent.  I've been keeping a log by week for almost a year and it's great to see the progress.  I'm down 91 lbs.  I've got 9 lbs to go to hit my big goal and then I'll fine tune.

I've cut back on the alcohol too.  A glass of wine now and again and maybe a bourbon. :devil:  It's my treat.  My mother gave me a bottle of Maker's Mark for fathers day and I wouldn't want to insult mom.  :grin:

When we go out to eat we'll go to a seafood place like Bonefish Grill and I can get a grilled piece of fish, veggies and maybe a salad if I'm really hungry.  I generally ask for dressing on the side and dip my fork into it so I have the taste with every fork full but I don't have much at all.  Instead of bread with butter I'll dip in a little olive oil.  It's better.  We also go to Carabbas and they have a salad there with a vinigrette dressing and grilled scallops and shrimp.  That's great.  I think they call it Ensalata Johnnie Rocco.

Well, since we're talking about grand kids, you know I have the most intelligent and beautiful grandson around, don't you?  :wink:  He'll be three in September and we have a grand daughter on the way, also due in September.  God is good!!!

If it's all the same to you two, I'd like to keep our posts the same.  We can welcome others to be sure but if it gets too big I may lose track of all the posts.  It's easier too to help each other.  Let me know what you think.

Have a great day, ladies and stay strong!!  We can do it!!

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Bert....whoohoo!!! Fantastic :ribbon::rainbow::thumbsup:!! You must feel so great today you should celebrate...non food celebration of course. You are going to be able to do so much more with those two little ones. When we can we go for "nature" walks with our nephews (ages 2 and 4) and we always bring a bag along for each of them...they find so many treasures and sometimes we come home and with a little glue and construction paper we make beautiful pictures. It's great exercise for us and the kids.

Thanks for the eating out tips, I will try ordering grilled fish more. I really like fish so that is not a big sacrifice....it's that darn bread bowl and mashed potatoes. Your right a salad would be a much better choice and I already do the fork in the dressing trick. Isn't it amazing how little salad dressing you use and it still tastes the same. Someone also told me they do that with Chinese ... they order steamed shrimp and veggies with the ginger sauce on the side and use the dipping the fork trick, haven't tried that one yet but next time I have to have Chinese I will.

We can definitely keep this site going, actually I was suprised you wanted to stay...I know you do another site to and I thought you might have joined me out of pity since no one was responding :devil: but I was glad you did regardless.  I am not sure if Anne will want to stay here or go to her old site, it's great if she stays but if not we can keep this one going and maybe others will want to join...if not we've got each other! Any ideas for name?

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Thanks, Hiker!!!

Here are some names off the top of my head.

3 on a Match, Thin Trinity, Skinny Minis, Mid-Life Spices (my fave), Born to Lose.

I'll see if I can come up with more.  Our pal out west is probably still sleeping.  :grin:  Wake up!!!!!

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 Bert, my you are a creative type arn't you. They're  all great, but I'm with you " Mid-Life Spices" is my favorite too.

Hey Anne, when you wake up enough to read these let us know what you think.

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Good morning you two!

Well, I'm finally awake!  Congratulations, Bert, what great news!!  Doesn't it feel great to pass a big milestone like this??  I know it does - 91 lbs - under 200lbs!  Wow, wow, wow!  Am I right that this has taken you about a year? 

I have some good news as well.  I was down 33 lbs this am!  Even after some slips yesterday.

Concerning the forum, I definitely want to stay with you.  I guess I did not describe the other forum very well.  I don't have any active buddies there right now.   I am the one who started in in January and I've been the only one consistently participating.  I've invited other people to join along the way as buddies have come and gone.  The only reason I suggested it was 1) lots of people read it and Peter said that the forums are helpful to others trying to lose weight even if they don't get actively involved and 2) I thought that MAYBE one of the past buddies would return.  It is not a big deal though and more importantly, I'd like to keep posting with you guys, wherever that may be!

I want you to know that I am in this for the long haul and will be here to support you.  Honestly, I have been disappointed to get started with someone in a forum, only to see them disappear after a month or so.  I have been on the site continually since January and I can see that both of you have been as well (or longer).  So, I really appreciate that!

BTW, I agree with you, Bert - God is good!  It is only with His strength that I have been able to lose some weight!  By myself, I have no willpower!!!

Have a great day, you guys!
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Hey Anne,

33 lbs!!!  Way to go!!!  It does feel good, doesn't it!!!

Yes, I've been at this since July 16, 2007. 

Regarding your comment about God's strength to help you lost weight, I don't generally speak of this as some people get uptight but at this juncture I think it's appropriate.

We all know that there is the physical aspect to losing weight with respect to calorie counting, portion control and exercise.  It goes without saying this is a big part of it.

We now know too that there is an emotional side to losing weight, perhaps more specifically, why we gain weight and how we need to take a look at some of the emotional reasons we eat and what we have to do long term to address these emotional issues.

I believe there is a spiritual aspect as well. 

I've gained, lost, gained, lost several times over the past years only to end up gaining more than I lost.  Yes, it was fad diets.  Yes, I wanted to do it very quickly and yes, after I hit my goal I went right back to the old habits.  It wasn't enough though to identify all the external aspects of why I gained or lost weight and identifying emotional aspects just didn't cut it either.

I can't tell you how many commercials I've seen that always state "This time is for you!  Lose weight for yourself.  You deserve it." etc.  All these ads are all about "me" and self focused.  To be sure, we want to lose weight and the one, at least from a physical standpoint, that will benefit is ourselves.  I've tried this motivation in the past and was still unsuccessful.

I may have mentioned this before but last year, when on vacation, I hurt my back.  I was like an old man walking around.  I realized during that time that, God forbid, if we were accosted, there was no way I could protect my wife.  It was at that moment I began to realize that this was no longer about me.  I had to get in shape to protect my wife.  It went deeper than that though. 

I knew I had to be strong to physically protect her but more importantly, I began to realize that I had to ensure I'd be around in 10 years to be with her.  I always felt that I wanted to pass before her as I couldn't live without her.  That was the "me" motivation again.  I've come to realize that I have to be the one with her; to hold her hand when she takes her last breath and be with her to the end.

I know all this sounds morbid and mushy but I'm getting to my point.  I had all the knowledge of why I gained weight and what I had to do to lose it.  It's kind of like golf; I know what to do but I can't do it!  I began to pray.  I asked our Lord to show me the way.  If He wanted me to lose this weight and get in shape I couldn't do it on my own.  I prayed telling Him that He gave her to me and I needed to be around to love and support her.  He answered my prayer.  I began on July 16th and I haven't looked back.

If that's not enough, since I began on this journey, my son asked me to be guardian of his children in the event something happened to both of them.  What an honor!!  What a responsibility!  It's not about me.  It's about those I love!

It's not my intention to proselytize but there is no way I could accomplish what I have without my Christian faith.  Our Lord has been with me the entire way and with His help I'll keep this off for good!

Thanks for taking the time to read this, ladies.  It's a hugh part of my success.  To Him be the glory!

Bert

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You guys are both so great, I am not really religious but I am certainly not anti-religion but I do envy people that have your kind of faith and I am glad to share with you. I got two great diet buddies and what you say Bert is so true about loosing weight. I know all the facts and I believe them in my head but you really need to believe it in your heart, call it religion, spirituality, faith whatever, I think you need it to be successful and so far I have not reached that point....but I am trying and I know I will get there. I think we are going to be good support, like you said Anne, we are all in for the long run.

So far today is a good food day for me, I've kept my carbs extra low because for supper I am having a baked potato with turkey chili,I use canned turkey chili so it is a nice easy meal but I know the baked potato is not great.

So for the name....Bert had some great suggestions....Anne any suggestions or any preference on Bert's suggestions?

Again, I am so glad the 3 of us are on this journey together. Sorry for the mush.

Fran

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Fran,

It's not mush.  :grin:  For the record, I never think of myself as religious either.  Sure, I go to church for worship but it's just that; worship.  I can worship in many ways.  It may sound weird but often times religion gets in the way of faith.  Does that make sense?  Someone once said that "Religion was man's attempt to reach God.  Christ is God's attempt to reach man."  I kinda like that. 

Anyway, I'm glad we found each other too. 

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Good morning guys. So Bert, today is the day you start on the below 200 phase of your life! My goal like that is 150, I haven't been below that in about 12 years, but this time I will make it but for now I will be happy with any loss.

Yesterday was a good food day for me, my total calories were actually a little low, just over 1,000 but my carbs were too high...40%. It's unbelievable what 1 (albeit large) baked potato can do. Unfortunately my husband couldn't walk and that was all the excuse I needed so I missed out on that extra calorie boost but it was a good day. I felt in control of my eating.

We're getting hit with some nasty thunderstorms in Massachusetts but at least it's not hot and humid so I won't complain.  Unfortunately two of my dogs are afraid of thunder, one is absolutely terrified and it's so sad to watch. He's on drugs and they help but not enough. Worse than kids, there is nothing you can do to explain it to them.

Well you guys have a good day.

Anne, let me know what you think about the names Bert suggested or if you have any of your own and we can let Peter know.

Fran

 

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Mornin' Fran,

I felt so good today I even wore a tie!  You'll get under the 150 mark.  Stay focused and go for little goals.  I don't know how far you are from 150 but it doesn't matter.  Lifestyle change is what it's about and the little goals help us.

Don't worry about the baked potato.  It's the stuff we put on it that's the killer.  My wife and I will bake sweet potatos and when we have the regular white potatos, we get one good size one and split it.  I put salt, pepper and Colonel Seasons popcorn seasoning on it.  You should be able to find it in the popcorn section of the supermarket.  It's great on potatos.  You can get white cheddar, cheddar, ranch, etc.  Oh yeah; it's also good on Orville Reddenbacher 100 cal popcorn.

My beagle is afraid of thunderstorms too.  As long as she's with us she's ok though.  She just needs the reassurance.  I save the drugs for myself. :devil:

Anne, good morning (eventually) :grin:

Have a great day and stay strong!

Bert

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 Posted: 24 June 2008 04:32 pm
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Good morning Bert and Fran!

I wanted to post something last night but we went to a concert and then did some grocery shopping afterwards and didn't get home till 11:30 pm - way past my bedtime!

Any name you guys want is fine; it sounds like there was one that you both liked.

Bert, thanks for the insight on your weight loss journey.  Kind of interesting that we have both found prayer to be a major key to success after many years of failed attempts.  My angle is that I find food and the habits associated with it to be addictive but unfortunately, we can't give up food entirely like you can with other common addictions like alcohol, drugs, cigarettes (thank goodness I have not had to deal with those issues as well).  I wasn't successful in conquering my nibbling habits and like an alcoholic, I suspect that I will always have this problem.  I do now recognize that I need strength from God to overcome my tendencies and that He is stronger than my bad habits!  This is kind of the alcoholics anonymous approach!

I also agree with what you guys have said concerning religion vs. sprirituality.  God is alot more interested in relationship than he is in religious ritual.  I find that going to church can be a good thing for me but I have to accept the shortcomings of people in that and remember that God is so much more.  I don't normally talk about this either, but I'm glad you did, Bert.

Fran, is there a reason you have gone with a low carb diet?  Have you tried it before and has it been successful for you?  The reason I ask is that I have tried them - the most extreme being Atkins - and I have not done particularly well.  I think trying to minimize bad carbs like white bread, sugar, etc is probably good for everyone.  But there are lots of good carbs too - fruit, veggies, and even baked potatoes!  I have ended up having sweet potatoes much more often than white potatoes - they are good for you and so sweet!  But they aren't that great with chili on top so I'd go for a white one there!  I also don't have much due to the calories involved - typically my husband and I will split a small one - but then portion control is what this is all about, right?

I think when we all reach our goals - and maintain them for some period - that we should have a celebration party!  Bert, you would probably have to wait for Fran and me!

Bye for now!  Have a great day!
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 Posted: 24 June 2008 04:42 pm
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I think a celebration in the San Juan Mountains sounds great!!!  :wink: 

It's a litte flat here.:grin:

Fran, let me add to the good carbs list that Anne speaks of.  We have switched to 100 % whole grain pasta as well as breads.  Again, portion size is key but it takes more metabolic activity to digest these vs. the white kind.  Also, don't be fooled with labels that state "made with whole grains" of " whole wheat."  It's either 100% or not.  Hodgson Mills pasta is good and we eat a Petridge Farm Whole Grain bread.

Regarding the pasta, you can use turkey Italian sausage or make meatballs with ground turkey or chicken.  This, with a good marinara sauce, and you're good to go.  Very satisfying with a big salad.

Speaking of food, it's lunch time and I'm starving.:chewing:

See you gals later.

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 Posted: 24 June 2008 05:49 pm
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Thanks for the tips, I have no reason to go low carbs except my husband has diabetes so I try and keep carbs low. I haven't tried the Pepperidge Farm bread but we buy a high fiber bread from Trader Joe's that is really good. Unfortunately we don't have a Trader Joe's real close (20 minute drive) so I don't alway have the bread on hand, the Pepperidge Farm sounds like a great alternative and is probably something we can always get the grocery store. Also I already buy the popcorn seasoning....I never thought to put that on a potato--I will now :yum:. I do sometimes buy the Hodson Mills pasta but it takes soooo long to cook. One thing about me....I am the world's laziest cook, eally I think I have a crown for that. My husband helps but it makes no difference....no one will accuse me of being a domestic goddess :devil:. If I were rich I would pay my whole salary to someone else to cook and clean and I would be happy to do so. Now that's lazy.

I"m with Bert we'll celebrate in Colorado, of course maybe if it's winter, NC is the better bet :wink:.

Enjoy the rest of the day.

 

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 Posted: 24 June 2008 06:08 pm
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Love to have you ladies visit the Tar Heel State!  Fall is particularly lovely as is spring.  Generally, winter's a bit wet.

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 Posted: 24 June 2008 08:52 pm
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Well, I was thinking more like the Caribbean where we could show off our beach bodies!  Well, we'll just have to see...  I do think you would love it here as well!

Whole grain bread - I have had trouble finding a good one.  I live 30 miles from a decent grocery store and I have not seen Peppridge Farm.  I have been buying Roman Meal however I see that there is high fructose corn syrup listed in the ingredients - horrors!  The reason I keyed in on RM in the first place was because of the whole grain and only 60 calories per slice.  But I would rather not have the corn syrup so if you know of any others (still low cal), please let me know.

I don't have much time to cook, Fran.  So alot of what I do is make things in larger batches and then freeze them.  Like I have breakfast burritos almost every morning.  But I make them all at one time, put them in the freezer and then take them out individually.  For me, that allows me to eat healthy and also takes the sting out of constant cooking.  I also keep pumpkin muffins in the freezer - 122 calories each!

Gotta get back to work!
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 Posted: 25 June 2008 11:53 am
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Good morning guys. There you go, we have a great trip when we loose the weight, winter in the Carri bean, spring in NC, summer in CO and Fall in MA! Of course you guys will be waiting for me to reach goal but hey at that point you will probably be so ready to go you'll nag me into submission :devil::devil:.

Had another good day yesterday (1400 calories)---finally strung together 2 good days! Now I am going for a week, wish me luck. I am really proud of yesterday because we had a busy day and had sandwiches for supper, pastrami no less but still I came in OK.

I know what you mean Anne about the corn syrup, they sneak that in so many things. You had me scared for a minute so I went and checked my Trader Joe's bread, it doesn't have any. Trader Joe's is a small chain but I really love it. Do either of you have any around? A lot of people think they are expensive but I have compared many items to Shaw's and they are usually cheaper. Of course Shaw's isn't the cheapest either but those are basically my choices.

Bert, you even wore a tie! It must have been a good day. You know I know a lot of women, including myself who really like a man in a tie:wink:. My husband stopped wearing them about 5 years ago (except of course for special occasions) but I have always thought they were sexy.:devil:

I will wait for Anne to wake up but if no one objects I will ask Peter to change our name to Mid-Life Spices (Bert's suggestion).  I think that describes us well.

Have a good day and stay strong and cool. if possible.

Fran

 

 

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 Posted: 25 June 2008 02:45 pm
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Morning ladies,

Yes!  Trader Joe's!!!  We get all sorts of stuff there.  I really like their chicken breakfast sausages in the fresh meat area.  Only 110 cal. for 2.  With a toasted (lite) English muffin and a fried egg I'm at 280 calories for breakfast.  I use a litte butter Pam for the eggs and sausage.  Their frozen asparagus is very good, the vegatable bird's nests, the chipotle chicken skewers, etc.  There is so much.  How about the trail mix bars?? Only 140 cal and they have chocolate chips!

Anne, you mentioned showing off our new bods in the Caribbean.  I've lost a lot of weight but I'm still better looking with clothes on.  :grin:  In fact, the more I wear the better looking I get.  Fran, you mention you like ties.  Mmmmm-maybe a tie with my thong would do the trick.:shock:  Nah!!!  That's an image best left alone.

Regarding Anne and I nagging you to submission.  I think that could be the next fad diet; the Nag Diet!  Constant nagging helps burn calories and no one can nag and eat at the same time. :grin:  The recipient of said nagging would lose weight due to stress and just running away from the nagger.  Brilliant!

Great two days, Fran.  Keep it up.  I had a good couple of days myself and I'm working hard.  Let's stay focused and committed!  I'll think of you two when I'm working out if you think of me (not in the thong and tie, please) :devil:

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 Posted: 25 June 2008 03:38 pm
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Oh Ladies, I almost forgot.

Pepperidge Farms Whole Grain Breads don't have the high fructose corn syrup either.  We use the 100% Whole Wheat at 110 cal per slice.  It's chewy and flavorful.  Here's a site that may help you find where it's sold in your area.

http://www.pepperidgefarm.com/ProductDetail.aspx?catID=750

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 Posted: 25 June 2008 03:55 pm
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Ladies,

I don't know if you've seen this post on Peter's challenge but we should make it a point to ensure we have each others contact info when CPH goes away.  I'm distraught.  I'll send each of you my email address on a PM.  There's no date yet but I certainly want to keep the support going.

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ChunchieA wrote: I have a question is Calories per Hour going away?  I received a LiveStrong email and somehow I thought it was taking the place of Calories per Hour - anyone have info on this???

Yes, cph is going away. But we don't know when, and we don't know what if any cph features are being moved to Livestrong.com. Nir asked recently, but hasn't received an answer yet.

I have really loved the series of challenges I have participated in, and I especially loved doing the weekly updates for this one and reading all the posts. I think you all have done so well. And as I've posted repeatidly, those who didn't lose weight but stuck around deserve much credit. For so many years I'd just disappear when I was eating poorly and do much worse.

Because I don't know what is happening to cph, I am not going to start a new challenge myself. However, if someone else wants to do it, that's great.

You don't have to create a stats sheet in Excel as I have. I just love playing with Excel! You can post the numbers any way you like as has been done in previous challenges.

However, if someone does start a new challenge, say for July/August, they should be willing to continue the challenge at Livestrong.com if/when this forum is closed. We don't know yet if the forum posts will be moved over or not, so you might have to start from scratch again over there.

Lastly, I'd prefer not to start a long dialog about cph going away. Life's all about changes.

Fondly,

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HI guys, I used to be on a different thread and I remembered some info about this so I went back and her is what I was able to steal. This is from the FL4I thread and I thought it might provide a little more info:

** ANNOUNCEMENT **



RE:  Livestrong.com

CPH members have recently received an email from LIVESTRONG.COM showing some association to CPH.

I am in the process of investigating this with the site owner and admin.

Once I receive feedback I will be able to better answer anyone's question concerning this.

Rayna

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Many of you have likely seen the email from livestrong.com and have noticed at the bottom it says ... "the new home of CPH".

With regrets, I hate to say that this has been under wraps for quite some time, but I took a vow not to say anything.

Unfortunately, I'm not very good at checking my mailbox where all my CPH mail goes, and was a little late seeing the email.  It was my understanding that an announcement was to be made to all members.  I guess the email was their announcement.

There is also an active thread taking place on CPH that discusses the transition.  The post by Peter clearly explains it all.



http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum19/5943.html



Unfortunately, I do not know the future of FL4I on the new site.  As I receive information, I will pass it on.

If there are no plans to incorporate an FL4I section into the new site, I guess we can all talk off line to identify methods for continuing active support for FL4I.

RAYNA


 

ANNOUNCEMENT #3



Folks, there is a possibility that some of the CPH threads could be carried over to livestrong.com, but it's unclear at this time.  If FL4I is carried over, we can continue as usual but with a different format.

Meanwhile, if I could suggest that we not create any FL4I-related threads on livestrong.com until we find out what's going to happen.  BY doing so, this  could possibly impact the decision-making factor.

CPH is going to be around for will a while.  When a complete transition date has been identified, ya'll will be the first I tell!!

Thanks,

Rayna


 

 

I think swapping emails is a great idea so we don't loose each other---and you are right Bert a tie and thong---not a good look--not even on Brad Pitt!

Fran

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 Posted: 25 June 2008 05:43 pm
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I never got the email and I'm not sure what a FL4I is.

I'm glad we'll stay in touch until the new site is up.

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 Posted: 25 June 2008 05:54 pm
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Oh, this is bad news!  I love this site and don't want to lose it!  I will send both of you my e-mail address.  Do you think we should try to get on the livestrong site or just wait?  Have either of you tried already?

I gained two pounds :nono:  Now that I know about cph going away, I feel like going and eating more.  But I will try to make do with gum and water for now.

We don't have any Trader Joe's around here although I have been before in other places.  I like the wine selection.  I guess I will just have to keep looking for bread.  I really do like the fact that Roman Meal is only 60 calories per slice.  That is a big deal to me because I make several things where I need two slices of bread and yet the calories don't get excessive.

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