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Posted: 2 July 2008 09:39 pm |
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Thanks, Anne. I appreciate that.
You know, as I've been on this "journey" I've kept my team at work abreast of my loss each week since I began. It wasn't because I was being boastful (surely at the beginning there was nothing to boast about) but during the past year, by telling them and getting their encouragement, it did hold me accountable.
Now, with the advent of our inta-site, I feel sharing my experience with others at the college will hold me accountable during maintenance. This is forever so being involved will be a great help to me as well.
Thanks,
Bert
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Posted: 3 July 2008 11:48 am |
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Good morning guys. All of your suggestions really helped me make some plans for the week end, and possibly longer with no kitchen. Last night we went to Boston Market and I had a 1/4 chicken dark ( I know it's higher in calories but white is just too dry) and a double order of zucchini in marinara sauce. It was excellent and I stayed within my calories. I could have done a little better by taking the skin off but I confess...I didn't. Still it was within my calories so why not.
I checked out the calories burned calculator and that really gives you a visual of how important exercise is, I can burn a couple hundred calories more a day with exercising 3 or 4 days a week. It seems worth it to me.
Bert, I saw you joined Nir's challenge, I did too. I figure the more people I have to answer to the more on track I am apt to be.
So do either of you have any fourth of July plans? I think we may go for a walk in the woods, maybe even a short hike, it's hard to plan when your house is a total mess, at least for me it is so stressful have trouble thinking straight. Anyway what about you guys? Any cook out challenges coming up? I don't know if you guys have ever tried it but buffalo burgers are great. I like veggie burgers but to me they are just not the same when I want a juicy burger I have meat in mind and the Buffalo is lower in fat and at least to me as good, maybe even better than beef. And hey, if I can eat cow why not buffalo? Anyway food for thought (pun intended).
Hope you both have a great Fourth of July!
Happy Birthday America  !
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Posted: 3 July 2008 01:38 pm |
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Hi Fran and Anne,
I'm a dark meat fan to when it comes to chicken and turkey. I do take the skin off though as it still has sufficient moisture and flavor. Good for you!!
The exercise is key for me too. Without it my body just won't burn enough calories. The neat thing about it is that when I burn 700 calories, I can eat a bit more each day and still lose weight. It's great.
Regarding tomorrow, my wife made plans for us to go to a friends house for dinner without asking me about it first. She's a good friend but I really don't want to go. She's having some problems with her sister (she's a horder like you've seen on TV). She has stacks and stacks of stuff in her house and one can't move. There are several other issues she has going on too with her elderly parents. The sister won't be there but her folks will and I know that they'll drown their sorrows with very fattening foods for dinner.
Part of me says I should go to support our friend and just be with her and part of me is really #%@&! off that I'm going to be faced with that temptation when I'm so close to my goal.
I've had buffalo and it's great! You've given me a great idea for dinner tomorrow. I'll bring my own. I've also eaten large varieties of game from venison and elk to pheasant, quail, Canada goose, duck, squirrel and racoon. Wild game, tended to properly in the field and prepared well, is excellent and very low in fat.
Thanks for the idea!!!
Enjoy the weekend and always remember that we live in the greatest country on earth despite what the press would like you to think!!
Bert
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Posted: 3 July 2008 05:13 pm |
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Hey Bert, sorry to hear about your trials tomorrow, it's hard when our friends need us but we need to be good to ourselves too. I think you would be making the best compromise possible to go and support her but bring your own food, she should be able to understand that too.
You have tried a lot more things than me, I have had the buffalo, venison, duck, goose but no elk and defiantly no raccoon or squirrel. Not that I wouldn't try them, the opportunity has just never come up. I'm not sure about the squirrel, the raccoon yes, the squirrel, I'd have to think about 
Enjoy and stay strong, you are so close.
Fran
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Posted: 3 July 2008 10:32 pm |
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Hi, Bert and Fran
Wow, another crazy day today! I am finally getting going on the weekend, however!
Fran, I know what you mean when the house is a mess - I don't do well either when that is the case. When the house is clean and neat, I feel serene and comfortable. When it is not, I feel a bit anxious I guess. Well, I'm glad you've got some good food plans to see you through the remodeling of the kitchen.
Bert, I don't blame you for not wanting to go into a den of fattening food when you are so close to your goal. I am the same way - I just want to get to that goal NOW! You do seem to be good about handling those social situations so just remember you can do it!
I haven't had squirrel or raccoon either - but I have had bear! I was up in Alaska and met a guy at a restaurant. It was my birthday and my husband ordered a dessert with candles on it so this guy came over to talk with us. We ended up seeing him in another restaurant (small town) a day or so later and he brought me some bear meat for my birthday. I'm game to try anything so I made it into chili - not bad. Probably my overall favorite is elk and birds are pretty good too. I have a friend who is an excellent wild game cook. I don't care too much for venison although when she prepares it, I can be convinced.
Yesterday my husband finished a big project and so I said I'd take him out for dinner to celebrate. He really likes to go out and we have not been doing that too much. I picked a place where I knew I could order something reasonable for me. I got a senior meal (smaller portion) and had a small plain broiled chicen breast (skin removed), a salad with dressing on the side (didn't use too much) and sauteed veggies. No bread, no dessert. I even gave up my daily treat just in case I needed the extra calories at dinner. I figure I came in at about 1400 calories for the day, counting 600 calories for dinner. Even if I was way off on the dinner calories, how much off could I be? Let's say it was 1800 calories, although I know that is way high. Oh, I also walked two miles yesterday, worked out on my cross trainer and lifted weights.
When I got on the scale this am, I was up 1.2 lbs!!! I know no one said that life is fair, but come on! As I said, I want so badly to get to my (initial) goal. I just feel like I'm not getting anywhere!! This also makes me worry about maintenance. Will I gain all my weight back if I eat 1500 calories per day? I'm not asking for an answer, I'm just saying what goes through my mind. I'm 5'8" and used to weigh 120 lbs in my late 20's and 30's. To maintain that weight, I was a serious runner (30 miles per week, 7 minute miles), lifted weights and was otherwise very active. I ate almost nothing - seriously. My idea of a big splurge was to have a bite of my husband's ice cream cone - I never actually had one myself. I can't remember that I used to have breakfast (maybe I did), I'd have a yogurt and diet soda for lunch and for dinner I'd have something like a very small amount of grilled fish or chicken and a steamed veggie. I did not eat in between meals. If we went out to a mexican restaurant - no chips, no drink, taco salad without the tortilla bowl. I think you get the idea.
So, I pretty much know what it takes for me to be 120 lbs and I'm not shooting for that because although being very thin is nice in alot of ways, I really don't want to deprive myself to that extent anymore. But I would like to be able to eat normally (healthy food, small to moderate portions, a treat once in awhile) and also maintain a normal weight - maybe around 135. At 135, I should be able to consume about 1800-1900 calories per day, but today I will gain weight on that! I was hoping to slowly condition my body to eat more once I got to my goal - maybe up 100 calories per day each month. But I really don't know if it will work!
Sorry for the long winded post. I guess I am just kind of disappointed in my progress and worrying.
Happy 4th of July!
Anne
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Posted: 4 July 2008 01:46 pm |
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Happy Fourth of July buddies! Today be sure to tell someone you are proud to be an American, like Bert said...we live in the best country in the world, not perfect but the best and we need to say so more often.
So Bert tell us, since Anne and I both agree a messy house is very stressful...is that a woman thing? For me and I think Anne too a clean house give us a sense of peace, almost like a spring meadow...weird huh?
Anne, I am so jealous....you went to Alaska? That has been a lifetime dream of mine and in fact over the past 10-15 years I have gotten mad it has become such a popular vacation, I wanted to go when everyone thought I was out of my mind, now that so many people are going there I am not sure it will be the same. It is the first place planned for our retirement. I really want to go in May and spend a year, of course I admit I want to spend the winter in Anchorage where there are plenty of people to teach me how to deal with it. I'm not sure if I will get the full year but we are definitely planning to go, how long is still open for discussion. I even have a foolish hat I bought 35 years ago for my trip to Alaska, who knew it would take so long to get there? I still have the hat and I will get to wear it!
Anne, you made some good choices and there is nothing worse than eating right, and getting your exercise and being UP at the scale. It's not right, it's not fair...and it's probably going to happen again. At those times I try to think back on the other times when maybe I did overindulge and didn't exercise and had a loss. I'm sure you've been blessed with those too, it's hard when you get the bad weeks but try and hold on to the memory of the good ones and know you will have them again.
I think Anne is right, maintaining is very hard.I reached my goal once about 13 years ago and I obviously did not maintain. I think for me it was getting away with cheats and then ignoring the small creeps up. Anne and Bert you guys will do and you will be doing it together (you'll have to come back for me) but I know it will be a great journey for you both.
Have a great day and enjoy and Bert....be strong I know today is a challenge for you but we are here to support you.
Fran
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Posted: 5 July 2008 01:19 pm |
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Anne, I see what you mean: if you got down to 120lb and didn't exercise then 1500 would mean weight gain. (my 66 year old mum would gain if she ate more than 1200-1300). According to the national weight loss registry most successful maintainers exercise every day and keep a close eye on their weight. This few calories can seem unfair and low, depending on food choices.
Makes me think of 'calorie poverty' - have to eat fewer calories, regardless of one's financial situation. The trick is to be 'happy with one's lot', otherwise one overspends and ends up in debt (=overweight).
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Posted: 5 July 2008 06:35 pm |
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Well, Hello, everyone and Happy 4th (one day late)!
Thanks, Fran and Nir. I was just being a complainer - I need to focus more on what I have done so far which isn't bad - 33 lbs gone. If my personal body is such that I can't eat much without gaining, I guess that's the way it is. Exercise is not my issue; I have been a regular exerciser since I was 18. I think that is a big reason why people don't seem to notice that much when I do put on some weight - I am pretty muscular - not like a body builder but solid.
Fran, don't dispair about Alaska and missing it all. We were there for 3 months (summer mostly) in about 1998 - Wow, I can't believe it's been 10 years! It is easy to stay off the beaten path and away from tourists if you want to. We went places that I felt that no one else had ever been to. The trick is to stay away from the tourist crowd. If you want to do the inside passage, take the Alaska state ferry, not a cruise ship. If you want to go to Denali, camp in the interior of the park and beat the tourists up in the am (I don't mean flog them, I mean get up earlier). 99.9% of the people don't hike or if they do, they only go a short distance. If you take a long hike, I guarantee you won't see anyone! Oops, I forgot you don't like to camp. How about a small motor home? We took our camper which is a cabover and had an excellent time. One thing to keep in mind about Alaska is rain - often in copious quantities for days. It's green there for a reason and coming from Colorado, I did get tired of it at times.
I hope you guys are having a wonderful holiday weekend. We went to a parade yesterday and fireworks. It is very Mayberryish here and I find it lots of fun. Today are horse races, tomorrow a picnic in the park and a concert. I ate some bad stuff yesterday but compensated by not eating good stuff so the calories weren't so bad. Like I had an ice cream cone in place of lunch. I know, not a great idea, but once in awhile probably won't kill me.
Bye for now,
Anne
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Posted: 6 July 2008 01:51 pm |
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Hi guys, hope you are both have nice long week ends.
Hey Anne, you are not complaining...we're here to support each other and sharing your challenges as well as successes is what it's all about. So don't ever think you are complaining.
Thanks for the info on Alaska, we figure we will probably renting an RV, something we can live in for a few months,I am okay w/ camping...just not sleeping on the ground. You've made me feel better about the tourist. Every time I mention going to Alaska someone tells me about the great cruise where you can see everything from the boat, then I know they just don't get it. That might be great for them but it isn't my idea of Alaska at all. Your suggestion of the state ferry rather than a cruise ship sounds great. In fact I copied and printed your post and it is now in my Alaska folder so I won't forget. Thanks.
So far my week end has gone pretty well, I am walking at least 2 miles every day and staying within my 1300 calories. According to the calculator on this site I can have 1696 calories if I do nothing and 1943 with light activity. I think my 2-3 mile walk will qualify me as "light activity" some of it is in the woods so I think that helps boost it up a little. I will know on Tuesday if it's working. I did read on one of the sites where someone weighed themselves everyday (knowing there would be ups and downs), the recorded every day and then took and average for the 7 days as their weekly gain/loss. I kind of liked that idea so I think I'll give it a try. I do like to weigh myself everyday but I find I can stress out if like Anne....I do everything right and see a gain . Maybe knowing it is just going to go into an average will help. Of course I don't think I will be very happy if the average is up. .
Hope you both have a nice final day of our long week end and I'll "talk" to you on Monday.
Fran
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Posted: 7 July 2008 04:24 am |
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Hi, Fran and Bert,
Happy end of the 4th weekend! I had a really good weekend - lots of festivities going on. I guess that is one benefit of living in a summer tourist spot. And it is small enough that it is easy to participate in things.
This morning we had church in the park - no kidding. It was a short service, followed by a free bar-b-que put on by the local church and bluegrass music. The service was Christian with a very patriotic theme. I mention this because I suspect that this may be the last place in the US where a church service is held on public town property! They have been doing it every year around the 4th of July for 22 years. I am just holding my breath waiting for a tourist to drive by, complain of being "offended" and sue the city. Until then, it is an enjoyable event.
Other than that, there was the parade and fireworks on the 4th and another bluegrass concert. I didn't used to be much of a bluegrass fan but a good live performance is pretty fun. I am always amazed by talented musicians. Do either of you play an instrument or sing? I am totally musically challenged - but appreciate those who are not.
I have been careful with eating this weekend but not perfect. Today I had two very small brownies but then only a salad for dinner (we did eat rather late, however). I am hoping that the damage tomorrow is not extensive.
Goodnight
Anne
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Posted: 7 July 2008 11:50 am |
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Good Monday morning. Hope everyone had a great week end and we're all so excited about our week ahead (yeah right).
Anne, your town sounds nice I am close to Boston and there are great things going on there. We have the Boston Pops perform with the fireworks and the combination is so spectacular they are televised nationally, Trouble is the crowds are so huge I would rather stay home. We've been a couple of times and it was great but as a yearly thing....I don't think so. Although there are people who go every year. They start lining up at 6am, the gates don't open until 9 and there is nothing going on until around 2 and of course the fireworks are at 9 but still they line up.
I know what you mean about the church in a public park, it would never fly here. Last year there was a big to do about the Christmas tree in an elementary school. Personally I don't know why there can't be a Christmas tree, a Star of David, a whatever holiday Muslims celebrate. Let them all learn about each other is my philosophy. But hey, that's just me.
Bert, today is your weigh in day I believe? Hope it goes well, if not....hey it's Monday after a holiday so be kind to yourself.
Fran
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Posted: 7 July 2008 01:46 pm |
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Well, good morning ladies. I'm back.
It seems you've been busy with the typing. I didn't look at a computer all weekend!
There's good news and bad news regarding my weight. Thursday evening my mother called (84 yrs) and said "I'm lonely." Well, what's a son to do but go over and spend some time with mom. My wife and I stopped at an Italian restaurant on the way that friends had told us about. They said the guy was from New Jersey and made great pizza. We picked up a pie, just plaing cheese, and went to mom's.
Mom was already on her first scotch when we got there. I was weak and had a bourbon. Hadn't had one in a while and it was so good, I had another.
Mom had some Pringles and Cheetos and because I was drinking, it affected my appetite and I ate some of those. When we got into the pizza I was so hungry I had 3 pieces. The pizza was everything my friend said it was. Fantastic!
But, I wasn't finished. My logic was such that I was going to get all the temptation out of the way in one evening so I could concentrate on repairing the damage over the long weekend. My wife and I headed to Dairy Queen after mom's and I had a large Blizzard with Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. My system just wasn't used to all that so later that night my stomach was off and it was off all night into the morning.
When I got up I didn't even want to look at a scale. I made some coffee, had a sensible breakfast and hit the exercise bike. Hard!!
Friday evening at our friends I was good. I had the buffalo burger and no desert. I also worked my butt off in exercise Saturday and Sunday. Bottom line, I'm still 197 this morning. No loss but no gain. I guess I should be happy with that and I am. I'll weigh in again Tuesday to see if I'm just retaining water.
Anne, don't worry about up or down. As long as the trend is down, you're winning!
I know what you mean about how people are offended. We live in the United States of the Offended! Read "Persecution" by David Limbaugh. I'm becoming offended by the way we're being pushed around.
Music? I love it. I've been playing guitar since I was 13. I have a Taylor accoustic and a Gretsch Country Classic 1962. It's not an original '62 but it's a beauty. It's the same model that George Harrison used when the Beatles started out.
We want to go to Alaska one day and I think the rental of an RV is a good way to go. The last big vacation we went on was two years ago this August to the Grand Canyon and Sedona. We have good friends that live in Sierra Vista, 16 miles from Tombstone, and they came with us. We had a ball!
Sorry this is so long. It takes a while to catch up.
Have a great day, ladies!!!
Bert
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Posted: 7 July 2008 02:55 pm |
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Bert, congratualtions on maintianing! It sounds like it was well worth it, having pizza and a Blizzard not to mention on bourbon or two! Hey, we have to live sometime and besides, you were just being a good supportive son .
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Posted: 7 July 2008 03:06 pm |
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You're right on both counts.
Seriously though, we do have to live a little. If we deprive ourselves all the time we'll never be successful. Heck, we'll be resentful.
These things are part of life and part of a lifestyle and as long as we account for them once and a while (for me I have to plan exercise to combat the potential gain), we can enjoy these things now and again.
Thanks, Fran.
Bert
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Posted: 7 July 2008 03:43 pm |
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Well, good morning everyone!
Congratulations on maintaining, Bert! I'd say that's fantastic!
The result of my indulgences is 2 lbs up  I'm going with the theory that much of it has to do with eating late last night. Although I did have some treats, I don't think my calories were that out of line. So hopefully in the next couple of days I'll be down. Only 11 more days to reach my 35 lb goal before the family reunion - yikes!
Fran, I know what you mean about the crowds for festivities in big cities. When I lived near a big city, I hardly ever went to anything because I didn't want to brave the crowds. So now, even though the stuff here is not as spectacular, I get to enjoy it now whereas I really didn't before. Yesterday, after the bluegrass concert, we got to talk with the players - now where the heck can you do that in a big city?
Bert, I am impressed that you play the guitar! You can entertain us at our goal reaching reunion!
Have a great day and good luck staying on track!
Anne
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Posted: 7 July 2008 03:57 pm |
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Hi Anne,
Don't worry about the 2 lbs. In the overall scheme of things, it's not that big a deal. Hit the exercise hard this week.
You know, I'll eat something close to when I go to sleep. Usually it's a piece of whole greain bread with a little organic peanut butter and a small class of skim milk. It keeps my metabolism going through the night. I may have mentioned this before so I'm sorry if I'm repeating myself. Make sure the peanut butter doesn't have all the other stuff you don't want. Peanuts and salt are it! You can tell if you have to stir the oil into the butter as it will separate from it because it doesn't have all the other stuff.
Hang in there. You're gonna make it.
Where's the family reunion?
Bert
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Posted: 7 July 2008 04:25 pm |
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Posted: 7 July 2008 04:30 pm |
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I can play some John Denver stuff so we'll be right at home in Colorado.
Fran, don't take this the wrong way but should we be afraid that you'll cook?
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Posted: 7 July 2008 04:36 pm |
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Yes. be afraid-- be very afraid! But that is my challenge, to learn to cook something...on second thought...Maybe I'll just order take out. I do that better than anyone one I know, in fact when my family and friends are looking for the best...whatever I can usually direct them.
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Posted: 7 July 2008 04:38 pm |
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I can live with that.
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Posted: 7 July 2008 07:57 pm |
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OK, I have an idea. I will give Fran lessons in "no fuss cooking"! Fran, you would not believe how easy it is to make pepper steak. When you set it on fire at the end, your guests will be shocked and amazed! Hopefully a 911 call will not be necessary.
My reunion is in southern Michigan. It is a reunion of cousins - I think I have 32 first cousins. When you count second cousins, it's scary.
Bert, you have not mentioned the snack before bed that I remember. Interesting! Do you count calories? If so, how many do you shoot for?
Anne
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Posted: 7 July 2008 08:08 pm |
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32 first cousins! Would you believe I have 3, only 2 living. Seriously, that is all I ever had 3. Pretty sad huh?
I'll take those lessons but remember if it takes more than 20 minutes---from the minute I walk into the kitchen until it's on the table it's too much work. I am the laziest thing you ever saw when it comes to cooking. Fortunatley my husband didn't marry me for my cooking, not sure why he did .... must be my winning personality
Fran
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Posted: 7 July 2008 08:55 pm |
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Hi,
Yes, I count calories. Generally speaking I have around 1600 - 1800 a day. That's low, I know, but I'm doing ok with it. Today I've had roughly 650 calories so far (it's 3:48 now) and I'm going to head to the common area fridge and get my V-8. That will bring me up to 720. The neat thing is that I burned 700 calories this morning on my exercise bike according to the bike's calculations. There's no way to program for sex, weight, etc so I figure maybe 600. That means I'm at 120 for the food and my bod is feeding off the fat.
Tonight I'll cook a chicken breast in a bit of olive oil and sprinkle it with McCormack's Mediteranian Sea Salt. I'll fix a big salad with greens, brocoli, cauliflower, carrots, roasted red peppers and some sqash and zuchini with tomatos I cooked up over the weekend. I'll cut the chicken up and put that on the salad and have some Greek vinagrette dressing. I should count the calories for all the salad stuff but it's not much. That allows me my bedtime snack. 
32 first cousins!!! That's not a family; it's a tribe.
Sounds like fun. I have four that are living and I haven't seen them in 30 years. Maybe it's time.
Bert
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Posted: 8 July 2008 11:59 am |
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Good morning guys. I have to tell you....I had my "official" weigh in today and I'm down 1.4lbs!
I am really happy. not quite the 1.5 I was hoping for but close enough, considering all of the restaurant meals I have been eating. I have discovered Friendly's (sorry Anne I think they are east coast only) but they have some great salads and I bring my own fat free Italian dressing. They are one of the few places that don't cheap on the lettuce. Really, why do restaurants do that? The put plenty of chicken, then cheap on the lettuce?? Makes no sense to me. I have found a good way to deal with that issue, if I am bringing them home which I usually do I keep a bag or two of the pre cut lettuce, you know the kind you pay too much for but don't have to do anything to , any way I keep those around and when I buy a salad I add a handful or two of my own lettuce mix.
Oh Bert, I should warn you....I love John Denver! What can I say, I'm old and I like music I can understand the words to. Actually in my old age I have started listening to country music, the new stuff and I really like it. Must be an age thing.
Have a good day Spicers!
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Posted: 8 July 2008 01:36 pm |
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Good morning Spice Godesses!!!
1.4 lbs!!!! Way to go, Fran!!! Keep up the steam!!! Anything from a pound up a week is terrific!
I'm old too (56) but I feel the best I've felt in years. I loved John Denver. I saw him live back in '77 or '78 at Maddison Square Garden in the round. We were 8 rows from the stage. Starland Vocal Band opened. Afternoon Delight???
Well, I'm still at 197 so I'm recording it and moving on. I did an hour on the bike this morning. My upper body is still sore from strength training on Saturday. No matter. Tomorrow is my strength day and I'm going to hit it regardless.
Have a great day ladies.
Bert
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Posted: 8 July 2008 02:43 pm |
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Bert, good attitude. You know with all the exercise and strengh training you're doing maybe you are putting on some muscle so it won't show at the scale. This time around I took measurements just for that reason. Guys have it easier--the belt is an automatic check. As long as you aren't going up that's great and really, maybe you are losing fat but gaining muscle.
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Posted: 8 July 2008 04:17 pm |
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I think you're right about the muscle weight, at least to a point. That's what I'm hoping for. I noticed that some dress shirts I bought a few months ago fit in the shoulders well enough but are getting pretty blousy in the waist. I can also see more muscle definition in my arms and shoulders in general. I'm no body builder but I'm not looking like a "gurly-mahn" either. My slacks are baggy in the seat but fit fine in the thigh. I guess this is all good.
I'll just keep pushing!
Bert
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Posted: 8 July 2008 04:42 pm |
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Congratulations, Fran! I love those downward ticks! Plus maintaining 197 for a week is great as well, Bert! Remember, you just broke 200 and being down 3 lbs from there is fantastic! I am up a pound from where I was a week ago but I'm down 1 lb from yesterday. I am working toward 3 more lbs this week - get back to where I was minus two more lbs.
Fran, LOL on your lettuce trick. Actually, I think it's a good idea. The reason I'm laughing is because of the bagged lettuce. I know it's convenient and I have tried it a number of times but I can't get past two things about it: 1) why do they leave the spiny lettuce stuff in that I have to go and pick out and 2) why does the bagged lettuce only last a few days in my frig when a fresh head of lettuce lasts at least 10 days? So I have given up on it unless I am really desperately in a time bind. I have had better luck with bagged spinach and slightly better luck with bagged field greens from Sam's. You gotta be able to get through the quantity, however!
Speaking of taking measurements, I wish I had!! I noticed this weekend that I was down one more notch on my belt but I haven't lost any weight. So maybe there is some truth in being able to lose inches (or fractions thereof) when you hit a plateau.
I love being a spice goddess, by the way! Have a great day and as Bert says, be strong!
Anne
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Posted: 8 July 2008 05:11 pm |
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I forgot to mention one thing in my prior post...
This is the time of year for corn. I never was really sure about the calories in corn. Online, it said 1 small ear or 2.7 oz of corn kernals is one serving. So exactly how small is small? Yesterday for dinner, I split a piece of corn in half, cooked it, cut the kernals off and weighed them - it came to about 3.5 oz! So less than 1/2 ear is 84 calories - good to know. I put 2.7 oz of corn on my plate and gave the rest to my husband along with another piece of his own corn!
BTW, Fran, this was way too much cooking, cutting, weighing effort for a little corn. Do not attempt this in your own home! Hey, how is the remodeling coming?
Anne
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Posted: 8 July 2008 05:24 pm |
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Hi Anne,
I haven't had any corn this year. I generally like to slather butter all over it. Kinda defeats the purpose of it when the butter calories are more than the corn. Maybe if I have a couple of those little ears you get in Chinese food. 
Great news on the belt tightening!!! I'm down another notch myself and have one more to go before I buy a new one.
We are going great, ladies!!!! Here's to us!!!!
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The remodeling is going well, the floors look great so far but for 24 hours we had to stay off off the entire kithen and family room so last night we were confined to very small den. the livign room and dining room are full of stuff so they were out fo the question. . Oh well, we are just laughing about it and dealing the best we can. Of couirse they just told me that when they do the final coat of polyurathane we can used the entire upstairs for 24 hours! Now don't you think they might have mentioned that?Fortunalty they have agree to do all except that final coat and come back in August when we're on vacation and finish it up then.
I love corn on the cob, it is a lot of work...but .... I usually get my husband to peel it and then I just steam it and we eat it right on the cob. BTW if you do eat it on the cob and are like me and have to have some butter we have discovered butter spray, it works excellant on corn and you use a lot less.
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Posted: 8 July 2008 06:43 pm |
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Hi again, ladies.
I just had a moment to read this article. Thought you might like to see it.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/144958
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Posted: 8 July 2008 09:38 pm |
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Interesting article, I agree that keeping a food diary/journal really makes a difference. My problem is when I know I have eaten way too much I don't write it down. I know that makes no sense and I am trying to get over that hump.
The week-end thing I believe is at least partly a result of our affluence. When I was a kid I got a candy bar once in a great while, same for cookies, chips whatever. Now we can pretty much pick one up whenever we want. When you're out running errands on the week end it is so easy to grab a candy bar at one store, a soda at another and maybe a bag of chips at the next and then of course we may as well pick up a pizza on the way home. I know I am guilty of doing that, that is one reason I am trying to really limit my junk...I ask myself...would my mother have let me do that? The answer is usually no, the hard part is I know she would have said no only because she couldn't afford it, I have to tell myself no because I can't "afford" it in another way.
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Just thought I'd say good night! I was way under calories today (not planned). I ended up going to a meeting that lasted until after 8 and so I didn't eat until almost 9. I am a bit worried about that - late is not good for me with weight loss. I had some healthy version eggplant parmesan that I had made earlier (no parmesan) and pineapple for dinner. I really hope that does not kill an otherwise very good day.
I read the article and without a doubt weekends are a challenge - that is when I want to go out to dinner the most or when we are socializing which often includes food. I just have to focus on treating the weekends like any other day.
Have you guys tried roll butter with the corn? Take a pretty hard stick of butter and roll the hot corn in it lightly. You really don't get that much butter on at all - but enough to do the trick I think. I often very lightly swipe hard or frozen butter in the bottom of a hot pan too, say before pan frying fish. It takes way less than a teaspoon and covers the bottom pretty well.
In addition to 40 minutes on the cross trainer today, I did stretches and abdominal work. I am just beginning to focus on the latter two - I don't like doing them but know that I should. So I will report on my progress!
Sweet dreams,
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Good morning guys. Can I tell you guys about a success? OK, I know you will say yes. Yesterday I had an unbelievably stressful day. You know the kind...when my husband came home and said what should we get for supper I scream at him and say "How the #%@&! should I know" yeah, that kind of day. Anyway after my husband, being a very wise man decided to work in the yard for awhile. After some time had passed I was able to suggest Panera, someplace I can get a 1/2 sandwich and a low fat soup. For me that was major, usually those kinds of days push me right into an eating binge but I didn't go there! Usually that would have been a row of Oreo night and maybe a little ice cream instead I had my supper and later I "indulged" in a Greek style yogurt, it's a little higher in calories but really creamy so it's worth it. I get the one with honey and it is really a nice dessert. Anyway that is my success. Big deal huh
Hey did you guys hear on the news that now they ( I assume AMA but I don't know) is suggesting babies get tested at age 2 for high cholesterol and children as young as 8 get put on medication for it. They say it is because of the high obesity rate in kids. Boy is that sad, we really have to do better by our children. I have 2 grandchildren and 2 nephews, none of them is overweight but I can see in my two grandchildren that although they are not overweight they are not skinny either. When I was a kid we were all pretty much skinny, not from lack of food but we got so much exercise, that just doesn't' happen anymore. Anyway, I just thought it was interesting and wanted to share. Hope you guys don't mind me doing that?
Anne, sounds like you had a tough day too and you made some great choices. I don't blame you for not liking to eat so late but some days it just can't be helped. Pat yourself on the back, you didn't stop on the way home from your meeting and grab a pizza or big mac, and your getting some exercise in. I call that a good day!
It's really hot and humid here (Anne, you are so lucky not to have humidity to deal with) so I am taking the dogs for a walk now rather than our usual 10am time. Maybe I can beat some of the heat.
Have a great day guys.
Fran
Have a great day guys.
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Hi gals,
I think you two are really doing great!! You're really looking at what you're doing and not reacting to the situations that can cause poor eating. You're taking charge and changing habits. That's huge!! Way to go.
Weekends are tough for us too. For us it's generally that we had a tough week and we just want to let our hair down. Very easy to get pizza (we found a new fantastic place just last week) or go out to dinner. I think once and a while that's ok and when I do it, I try to make the best choices I can and commit to hard exercise the next day to compensate.
Rolling corn in butter, eh. I think I'd like to do that myself.
I heard something about the kids and cholesterol situation. I'm not sure medicating kids that young is a good idea. Many of the cholesterol drugs can have effects on liver function and I wouldn't want to expose my kids or grandkids to that possibility long term. I think it's better to give them good eating choices and make sure they get their little butts out. I know it's not as safe as it used to be and their are many predators out there so it's incumbant on us to make sure we go with them and get active with them. For me, this is another part of my motivation for getting in shape.
Got up today and did 20 min. on the bike and strength training. Three sets each of leg lifts for front and back thigh, 3 sets of military pushups (30, 20, 17), 3 sets bicep curls. I'm still a bit sore from Saturday's workout.
Have a great day, ladies, and stay strong!!
I love 'ya!!
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Boy, you guys are quick! Here I thought I'd beat you to it this am by checking in BEFORE my exercise!
Congrats on handling that stress yesterday, Fran. I also have the urge to eat at those times - kind of crazy because then I just feel worse later - guilty.
I think the way we medicate in this country is ridiculous! And the way that so many kids is sedentery is ridiculous too! My grandchildren have all the video stuff - but luckily they are both very active too - my grandson is involved in every sport known to man. So they are very thin and don't seem to care a hoot about food! I'd still love them if they weren't thin (maybe even more??) but I'm glad they don't have to deal with that difficulty - at least not now.
I grew up being an overweight child and it is not fun. My mother is thin and was always very careful about what she fed us; all my older sisters were thin as well. My father, on the other hand, was always "pleasantly plump". I remember her taking me to the doctor for the first time when I was 5 for this issue (we never went to the doctor back then unless it was something really serious so you can see how concerned she was). He said not to worry - that I would grow out of it. Well, I never did grow out of it until I was about 13 and decided to go on a starvation diet! Oh, well, I could go on for days on this but my real reason for writing so early was...
A new low today by .2 lbs! Woo Hoo! 1.2 lbs to go to make 35 - wish me luck. (I can't help but wonder what might have been this am if I had just skipped dinner all together last night.)
I gotta go exercise before work! More later! Good luck today! Wow, isn't this more fun than going it alone? thanks for being buddies!
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Posted: 9 July 2008 02:33 pm |
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I grew up being chunky too and I was always active as a kid. My mother always bought me clothes in the "Husky" department.
Right now my grandson is a stick but he has the genes to really put it on. My son is big as is my daughter-in-law. I'm torn about talking with my son about his weight though. On the one hand, I want to impress upon him the importance for his health and his ability to take care of his family. On the other hand, my mother always had something to say about my weight for years and it #%@&! me off. To this day she'll say "You'd better keep your fat clothes. You know you can put it back on." I heard this just two weeks ago. Mean lady.
I think it's good to talk about this stuff because there's many underlying reasons why we've gained weight over time. True, we've developed bad habits but the real question is "why" and when we can answer that, we can act to overcome the situation. Being together on this is great support. I'm glad we're a team.
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Hi, all
Bert, I can't believe that your mom tells you to hang on to your "fat clothes"!! If she wasn't your mother, I'd have to come over and slap that woman! She obviously doesn't get that you have made a lifestyle change and how that is so different than losing weight on the latest fad diet that you leave behind. This is not a diet - it is how you are now. And you've learned how you can have a piece of pizza now and then and a piece of cake and a blizzard - they are incorporated as occasional treats into your otherwise very healthy eating plan! So all I can say is good for you and I'm really sorry to hear that anyone would ever say anything to imply that you will slide back. I have great faith that you will not!
Now, for some advice - not that you asked for it!! I think discussing another person's weight with them, unless they bring it up, is not a good idea (your son). No one likes to be heavy; it is not a "choice" as I define a choice anymore than being an alcoholic is. My guess is that your son is a little uncomfortable now just because you have lost weight - you know he thinks about it and probably belittles himself because of where he is. I think the best thing you can do is love him as he is. He can only lose weight when he is ready and there is really nothing you can do to get him there. So that's my take on it.
Hey, I bought a bunch of rutabagas - oh, my gosh, I don't know what I was thinking! Does anyone have a good recipe for them?
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Posted: 9 July 2008 06:56 pm |
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Hi Anne,
You're right about not talking with my son. He'll have to figure it out for himself as I did. I hope that he'll see how I've succeeded and realize it can be done.
I have a recipe for rutabegas but it's very fattening. It involves a lot of butter and cream.
I'm taking off for the afternoon. We went out to lunch and something didn't agree with me. I feel sick.
See you gals tomorrow.
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Posted: 9 July 2008 08:07 pm |
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Sorry you don't feel well Bert. Rest...and try and keep cool.
I agree with Anne, talking to someone about thier weight unless they ask is not a good idea. They know they have a weight problem and they are just going to deal with it in their own way.
So you guys both grew up plump--not me in fact the social worker used to come to our house and check our cabinets--I swear they would actually come into our house and ask about what we eating and check the cabinets, becuase my brother and I were so thin. Of course my mom was a single parent back in the 50's so of course she was suspect as a bad mom. In my family we stay stick thin until around 30 and then it starts creeping on until about 40 when it slams you. The bad thing is by then you are so used to eating everything you want and not gaining an ounce it's hard to change. But with you guys I will.
Anne, you are right this buddy thing is great. And don't try to beat me and Bert...we have 4 hours on you. Actually when I first saw your post from yesterday I was thinking...she was up at midnight then I realized it was like 8:00 your time. On top of being on the east coast I am an early bird. In fact I used to be on a site and ended up talking to people from Europe a lot of the time.
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Posted: 9 July 2008 09:32 pm |
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Hi, Guys!
Fran, I used to dream about being the kind of kid who could eat anything! I guess it would be hard when things changed - never thought about that. At least I was well versed in portion control!
Bert, I have a fattening recipe for rutabagas too - involving bacon and onions, one of my favorite combos. Hmm. I could just mash them but I'm not so sure my hubby would warm up to them. They might be good with mashed carrots and potatoes too. Have you ever mashed potatoes and carrots together? Very good!
Hope you feel better, Bert! You weren't rolling around in the butter, were you?
I'm actually just 2 hours behind you guys - Mountain time. Pacific time is an additional hour behind me. So I could beat you up in the am - maybe on a weekend if you sleep late!
I gotta go do my sit ups! I'm taking a late lunch today. Had my favorite bacon, lettuce, avacado and tomato sandwich. Yum! I could eat about 3!
Hey, what ever happened to Yam? I don't think I mentioned this before but one of my previous buddies from the site came back about a week ago. She didn't want to post on the site though (too bad) and she asked if I would just e-mail her. So I am doing that with her as well. I am hoping that she may change her mind and come back to the forums someday.
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Posted: 9 July 2008 10:40 pm |
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Sorry for not knowing the time of day Anne. I don't know where I got 4 hours....guess I moved you to CA time .
I made a slight error in judgement yesterday...I ordered a veggie quesadilla (sp?) which might have been okay except this thing was HUGE, half would have been enough...of course I ate the whole thing  . Actually it was a really good one, not as greasy as a lot of them are, next time I will be prepared and stop at half.
I was pretty good at getting in the exercise, I walked 2 miles and went for a short (6 mile) bike ride . I should have gone longer but I haven't been out in a while and it was so humid I wanted to be sure I could get back. As it turned out I was fine and could easily have done a couple more miles. I do have the neatest bike, it's a retro bike so although it is only 4 or 5 years old and has 18 speeds it looks like the bikes we had as kids, wide tires, big seat, regular handle bars so I can ride sitting upright....much easier on the back. The best part is it's purple and I added pink tassels to the handle bars, when I ride that I feel like I'm 10 years old again .
Hope you both had good days. Talk to you later.
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Posted: 10 July 2008 02:34 pm |
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Hi,
Still feeling badly but back at work. It must have been the salmon I ate at lunch yesterday. I had grilled salmon, steamed brocoli and fresh strawberries with Splenda. It hit me pretty quickly. I didn't vomit but I felt like it. I'm still burping and they're very fishy burps. 
I'm open to someone else coming to the group but consider this. If we add too many folks it may get difficult to keep up and respond to all the postings. The big postings, such as Nir's challenge, are great for big groups. Let me know what you think.
I'm going to see how the rest of the day goes. I have a meeting at 3:30 but I may blow it off as I feel #%@&!. We'll see.
Hang in there sports fans!!!
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Posted: 10 July 2008 03:56 pm |
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Hello fellow spices,
Sorry you still aren't feeling well, Bert. Fishy burps? Eeewww, that isn't a good thing! I hope you feel better soon.
Cool sounding bike, Fran. I am envious of the seat. Whenever I start riding my bike in the summer, I end up with bicycle butt! It sounds like you are getting some good exercise which is great!
Speaking of exercise, you are both planning to be here for the Hardrock 100 this weekend, right? I've signed you up! Actually, I have to go to Colorado Springs this weekend and I am going to miss it. I really wanted to volunteer to be a worker at a food station so I could see what these people really look like after 100 miles. Maybe next year!
As far as additional buddies, I am not too concerned one way or the other. The only thing I am hoping for is that we all stay active together. I understand your concern, Bert, especially since you are in two of these. My previous experience is that people came and went pretty quickly and so you needed new blood - but hopefully that will not be the case with us! I think I went through 4 or 5 buddies before hooking up with you guys - maybe it's me!
I was very good again yesterday - 1300 calories, lots of exercise (including those darn sit ups). No change on the weight - 1.2 lbs to go! I am going away this weekend by myself (6 hr drive) and since we have a house in Colorado Springs, I won't be going out all the time. I'm going to see a few friends probably but will be very cautious. I REALLY want to get to 35 lbs!!! Wish me good luck.
I'll check in this weekend if I can get an internet connection!
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Posted: 10 July 2008 04:43 pm |
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| I'm pretty much with Anne, I am happy with our group, my concern is people dropping out but we have all beendoing this for a while so I'm sure we will be sticking it out. Believe me I was so happy when Bert responded. I had my post out there for a week and kind of felt like there was a big L on my forehead. Anyway, how about saying we don't go out looking but if someone comes in like Anne did and asks we grow the goup up unitl say 5 or so? Like I said 3 is great with me but I hate to say no if someone asks to join or if any of us has another buddy. Anyway that's my thoughts things are good as is. I've got 2 great buddies so I'm happy .
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Posted: 10 July 2008 05:29 pm |
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Bert, hope you feel better. I was planning salmon for supper... maybe I will rethink that....I don't want fish burps  .
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Posted: 10 July 2008 09:31 pm |
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Yes, Bert. Feel better. I wish I didn't think this way but whenever I get sick (not often at all), I am anxious to see what the scale says. I guess that's the only compensation! So good luck on that.
I'm leaving for Colorado Springs now - it's a 6 hour drive - not looking forward to it!
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Posted: 10 July 2008 09:41 pm |
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Anne, have a great time in Colorado Springs. Talk to you on Monday.
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